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Kaleva

(38,164 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 05:57 PM Jul 2017

Installed recessed lighting in my kitchen last weekend

The kitchen has one 34" wide window over the sink which faces east. For lighting, there was just a ceiling fan that had 5 lights on it. Lighting wasn't the best so the wife wanted me to put in recessed lighting. One light by the pantry, two over the east counters, tow over the west counter and a box for a pendent light over the sink.

So my task was to figure out how to do this without having to cut into too much drywall as this was a remodel job. As we had separate switches operating the ceiling fan lights and the fan itself, I figured I'd tie into the circuit feeding power to the ceiling fan lights and use that to supply power to the recessed lights and the pendant light box. I turned the appropriate c/b off and took down the ceiling fan and I sure was happy to see what I saw. The ceiling had been lowered so that there was about a 4 inch gap between the old ceiling joists and the new joists. This was going to make running the 14/2 wire very easy as i thought I'd have to cut a strip of drywall out of the ceiling and drill holes though the joists.

I then marked out on the ceiling where I was to cut the holes for the recessed light cans and the box for the pendant light. Right away I realized I ought to have the shop vac sucking up the dust as I cut out the holes with a drywall saw. So with one hand holding the shop vac hose, I cut out the openings with the other while standing on the step ladder. This didn't prevent all of the mess but it reduced it by a lot. After the holes where cut, I ran the wires from the ceiling fan box to the the 1st hole, cut the wire and ran another to the 2nd hole and so on and this wasn't a problem at all.

When I tried installing the first can, I couldn't get the tabs to lock into place so I called it a day on that job and was going to google search for people who had the same problem and what their solution was. Here is what I found and it did the trick:



And this article was also very helpful:

http://www.seattlehome.com/blog/how-get-those-clips-recessed-lights-secure-remodel-halo-cans/

On Sunday, I went back to the job and by the 3rd can, wiring and installing, I was a pro at this.

For the pendant light box, I used a ceiling box and brace kit such as the one found in the link below.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Raco-RETRO-BRACE-with-4-in-Round-Ceiling-Rated-Pan-1-1-2-in-Deep-with-1-2-in-KO-s-936/203743171?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-VF-PLA-D27E-Electrical%7c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjZKpobaW1QIV1LfACh2S8gWJEAQYAyABEgIIafD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Once that was all done, I installed LED Retrofit Baffle Trim lights in the cans. I spliced together the wires in the pendant light box as a temporary measure because the wife hasn't got the light she wants for that yet. I then turned on the c/b and went back upstairs and flipped on the light switch. What a difference in lighting!!
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Installed recessed lighting in my kitchen last weekend (Original Post) Kaleva Jul 2017 OP
Those LED retrofit baffles are the cat's meow. I push them on all my friends. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2017 #1

Hassin Bin Sober

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1. Those LED retrofit baffles are the cat's meow. I push them on all my friends.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:55 PM
Jul 2017

We did our whole house when they first came out. Shoulda waited. We paid $40 for the Cree brands. Now they are down close to $11 to $13 with the power company rebate included at the register.

They are great for showers as they are wet area rated. On a new install they are cheaper than a halogen and a trim kit.

I've done a shit load of those remodel can installs. That looks like a pretty good fix for those difficult tabs. It's a huge issue on the Home Depot reviews.

I've gotten pretty good with my technique. I'm often installing in old ceilings with a layer of drywall over old lath and plaster so getting those clips to seat can be even more of a bear.

I get it started by tapping the tab up and close to flat with a hammer. I hold the tab from springing back out with my finger. I switch my finger out with a large flat head screw driver to catch that little tab. Then I drive the clip up and in. It deforms that slot just like that guy does with the screw driver.

I'll have to try that technique. Now I'm wondering why Halo just doesn't pre deform that slot?

I did a couple of those surface mount leds that look like recessed cans for a friend. They worked great and put out a lot of light. They clip to the j-box. Still a little pricey.

Remember when people were crying about "they are taking away my 100watt bulb!!"?

We did the math. We took our lighting wattage from about 2500 to 400. My partner is a fanatic.

I think very light but the microwave light is LED now.

These are the Cree lights we used

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-TW-Series-65W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-6-in-Dimmable-LED-Retrofit-Recessed-Downlight-DRDL6-06227009-12DE26-1C100/205337184

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