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appalachiablue

(43,099 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:30 PM Oct 2023

Homeowner Faces Citation for Her 'Woke' Garden: Native Plants, KY 🌿

'Gardener faces citation for her ‘woke’ garden: ‘Glad this is spreading’ Yahoo News, Oct. 18, 2023. 🌱 🦋

Reddit recently joined an ongoing debate about one Kentucky homeowner’s native plant garden. According to the Courier Journal article this Redditor shared, master gardener Jacquelyn Hawkins-McGrail lives in the Hunting Creek neighborhood of Prospect, Ky.

In 2005, Hawkins-McGrail decided to turn her yard into a certified wildlife habitat, replacing her grass with a variety of native plants that support birds, monarch butterflies, and other living creatures.

This didn’t go over well with Hawkins-McGrail’s neighbors, the Courier Journal reports. At least one posted online to accuse her of “woke gardening,” while at least one other reported her to the city of Prospect, resulting in a citation, which Hawkins-McGrail was fighting.

Native plants have a wide range of benefits for homeowners and the environment. They don’t need much beyond the natural rain, sunlight, and soil in their native region, so they’re easy to keep, saving owners time, money, and water. They also support local wildlife, including the insects that feed larger animals and the pollinators that keep plant populations healthy...

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/gardener-faces-citation-her-woke-200000651.html

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Homeowner Faces Citation for Her 'Woke' Garden: Native Plants, KY 🌿 (Original Post) appalachiablue Oct 2023 OP
Some of her neighbors are morons and their boring chemical yards are death zones. Eom diane in sf Oct 2023 #1
You can use earth friendly chemicals now. It's 2023, not 1970. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #7
It probably takes more time and thought than yours getagrip_already Oct 2023 #9
++ appalachiablue Oct 2023 #11
It is strange that you don't see dandelions anymore. They used to be everywhere. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #15
See post 21. niyad Oct 2023 #35
YES!!!! niyad Oct 2023 #36
I'm pretty sure you'd hate our yard. LuvLoogie Oct 2023 #16
I have no idea one way or the other. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #18
Just my personal experience: people who live in HOAs tend to be the "ma freedom" types. shrike3 Oct 2023 #27
Could be. But everyone no matter what must comply or they get kicked out of fined. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #30
Doesn't sound too American to me, ie., Democratic. But that's me. shrike3 Oct 2023 #41
Nothing was said in the article about an HOA, but keep on niyad Oct 2023 #37
Laugh away. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #38
Well done appalachiablue Oct 2023 #32
Her yard is a certified wildlife habitat, NOT "she is lazy". it niyad Oct 2023 #21
Yep. My neighbor brings me food. Thank god! jimfields33 Oct 2023 #39
I don't see why not. Would even make one of my special niyad Oct 2023 #40
Note that she made the changes (or started to) in 2005... RockRaven Oct 2023 #2
Saw that, the neighbors are dying to use woke... appalachiablue Oct 2023 #33
Native gardens don't need to look messy Mossfern Oct 2023 #3
Appreciate the expertise! calimary Oct 2023 #13
There really are no plantings, just whatever comes up. Mossfern Oct 2023 #14
She is also a Master Gardener DeschutesRiver Oct 2023 #17
Then she should know Mossfern Oct 2023 #20
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.". I found her garden niyad Oct 2023 #22
+1 appalachiablue Oct 2023 #34
Some of her neighbors, and whoever issued that citation, niyad Oct 2023 #4
I can supply the mint and some multiflora rose. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #5
Ahhh, a person after my own heart! That will be even more fun niyad Oct 2023 #6
or maybe catnip instead? DBoon Oct 2023 #8
Catnip (catmint) is a member of the mint family. It grows niyad Oct 2023 #23
Hah! You want the invasive species that ate the South ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #19
Actually, kudzu has various healing properties, in some niyad Oct 2023 #24
Poison ivy. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #28
Now there is a thought. niyad Oct 2023 #29
Purslane and kudzu ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #42
I had forgotten about purslane. niyad Oct 2023 #43
"Woke" gardening? That is sooooooo mind boggling STUPID! Auggie Oct 2023 #10
I had to read the title three times. I was certain I was not niyad Oct 2023 #25
i'm truly baffled barbtries Oct 2023 #12
I, too, practice woke gardening, Ocelot II Oct 2023 #26
Prospect neighborhood Bayard Oct 2023 #31

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
7. You can use earth friendly chemicals now. It's 2023, not 1970.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 03:05 PM
Oct 2023

I’d hate that yard for a neighbor. If it was nicely done is one thing, but I believe she’s just lazy and doesn’t want to mow her yard.

getagrip_already

(17,540 posts)
9. It probably takes more time and thought than yours
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 03:48 PM
Oct 2023

And the key word here is it is HER yard. Go.pound some sand in yours, respectfully, of course.

Seriously, most of us live in an urban dessert. There are no food sources pollinators can use because people who want green and tidy kill them.

There are no wildflowers, no dandelions, no goldenrod, no wild blackberries, no nothing.

But certainly, kill your grubs, and your mites, and your midges, and mosquitos, and crabgrass, and broadgrass, and dandelions, and weeds of all kinds, and anything that crawls or Flys or stings or bites.

And turn your neighbors in if they let their lawns go a quarter inch too high. Lazy bsstards.

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
15. It is strange that you don't see dandelions anymore. They used to be everywhere.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 04:42 PM
Oct 2023

I literally don’t think I’ve seen one in person in over 10 years.

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
18. I have no idea one way or the other.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 05:44 PM
Oct 2023

I’m in one of those pesky HOAs that everyone hates who don’t live in one.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
27. Just my personal experience: people who live in HOAs tend to be the "ma freedom" types.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:45 AM
Oct 2023

Yet they love control, so long as it's for everyone but them.

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
30. Could be. But everyone no matter what must comply or they get kicked out of fined.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 10:38 AM
Oct 2023

They are definitely not for everyone. That’s another form of diversity in differences where you decide to live. Every person can live where they want which is nice.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
41. Doesn't sound too American to me, ie., Democratic. But that's me.
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 09:19 AM
Oct 2023

Really weird. People who say they're all about freedom (the people that I know) don't want freedom for anybody else. Want everyone to be controlled. Strange. Why I'd never live in one.

niyad

(120,664 posts)
37. Nothing was said in the article about an HOA, but keep on
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 06:32 PM
Oct 2023

attacking people in this thread. We need the laughs.

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
38. Laugh away.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:38 PM
Oct 2023

I’d didn’t realize you couldn’t add to the thread. Sorry. I’ll definitely ask you next time if it’s cool with you.

niyad

(120,664 posts)
21. Her yard is a certified wildlife habitat, NOT "she is lazy". it
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 08:58 AM
Oct 2023

is fairly obvious that you pay no attention to the environmental toll that the passion for useless green lawns causes, which is a pity. And, by the way, I do not know where you live (clearly, not next door to me, Goddess be thanked), but where I live, dandelions are EVERYWHERE, especially in spring. And, equally clearly, you know nothing about the beneficial uses of those beautiful (look at them closely) little plants, every part of which is useful. The leaves are used raw in salads, or brewed as a tonic to clear winter sludge. The flowers are made into dandelion wine and jelly. And the dried roots are used for intestinal issues. Many nurseries sell many different varieties of dandelions, so, no, they have not been eliminated.

RockRaven

(16,528 posts)
2. Note that she made the changes (or started to) in 2005...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:38 PM
Oct 2023

Wasn't aware "woke" gardening was that old.

Man, her neighbors are idiots.

Mossfern

(3,249 posts)
3. Native gardens don't need to look messy
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:51 PM
Oct 2023

A bit of planning and borders and pathways can make them look quite pleasant.

My next door neighbor does what she thinks is native gardening, but has so many alien invasive plants in her yard. I tried to educate them about invasive plants diminishing, even eradicating habitat, but was told that it was too much work for them to monitor and eliminate them from their property. They have a National Wildlife plaque on their property. They hand feed deer - so much for National Wildlife Federation quality control.

I'm a Master Gardener in New Jersey, so I know a bit about this issue.

calimary

(84,607 posts)
13. Appreciate the expertise!
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 04:30 PM
Oct 2023

I guess maybe it's just the individual circumstances - some people have time to put into their garden. I'm retired so that includes me. But others can't for all kinds of legitimate reasons ranging from job to kids to sick/elderly relative to take care of and more.

Ever thought of offering some sort of educational Garden Visit in your neighborhood for an hour or two on a nice weekend afternoon in the front yard? I'd sure go to something like that! I'm a total amateur, but I enjoy it, and I'm getting to know all kinds of plants and shrubs and trees and ground-cover that we sure didn't have in SoCal! And right now, it's leaf-changing season, and the profusion of color is simply amazing! You should see my garage - on work tables and even the floor, COVERED in leaves being pressed and dried for crafting and stuff. I take the best ones and laminate them for bookmarks, easy gifting, and other flat fun.

I'm curious about what kinds of plantings your neighbor has.

Mossfern

(3,249 posts)
14. There really are no plantings, just whatever comes up.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 04:41 PM
Oct 2023

I did notice that recently they planted a single privet on their front lawn. Privet is considered an alien invasive species. Honestly, I'm tired of trying to explain to them.

I'm especially disappointed because the gentleman who live there previously was the person who initiated the Master Gardeners program in our county. He kept an organic vegetable garden that provided for him and his wife throughout the year. He was an early advocate of organic gardening - since the 1960's I believe. A wonderful man who would place a lawn chair in the middle of his garden, invite any of my children to have a seat and supply them with an Audubon book and a pair of binoculars.

niyad

(120,664 posts)
4. Some of her neighbors, and whoever issued that citation,
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:52 PM
Oct 2023

are beyond morons. hmmmmm, perhaps a midnight visit with lots of mint seed would be in order???

niyad

(120,664 posts)
6. Ahhh, a person after my own heart! That will be even more fun
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 03:04 PM
Oct 2023

than the sunflowers I had planned for the obnoxious, unwelcome business in our neighborhood.

niyad

(120,664 posts)
23. Catnip (catmint) is a member of the mint family. It grows
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:01 AM
Oct 2023

wild everywhere around here.

niyad

(120,664 posts)
24. Actually, kudzu has various healing properties, in some
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:04 AM
Oct 2023

Eastern practices. But it is, indeed, an invasive thing.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
42. Purslane and kudzu
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 03:13 PM
Oct 2023

Good luck eliminating those once they get even a hint of taking root somewhere.

niyad

(120,664 posts)
25. I had to read the title three times. I was certain I was not
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:05 AM
Oct 2023

reading it correctly.

barbtries

(29,951 posts)
12. i'm truly baffled
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 04:12 PM
Oct 2023

how a person's garden is objectionable? fucking right wing shit stirrers, someone should tell them to get a life.

her garden is beautiful. only right wing idiots could find that offensive. smh

Ocelot II

(121,485 posts)
26. I, too, practice woke gardening,
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:38 AM
Oct 2023

and I'm also a Master Gardener. I eliminated my lawn about 10 years ago and filled my yard with mostly native plants which were chosen intentionally to include species that attract pollinators and birds. I remove invasive plants, but if useful ones turn up on their own (and they do) I don't bother them. So in addition to plants like joe-pye weed and black-eyed susans and coneflowers and bee-balm and decorative grasses I've also wound up with Philadelphia fleabane and New England asters and a few others that have just appeared by themselves. A few areas are very shady so there are non-native hostas and pulmonaria and a few others along with native solomon's seal, ferns and jacobs-ladder. Fortunately my city doesn't get heartburn over non-turf yards, so there are many others like this in my neighborhood of old houses and smallish yards. I did have a next-door neighbor who hated my yard and regularly let me know how much he hated it, which included by spraying Round-Up all along the property line, killing several valuable shrubs, and by cutting tree branches beyond the property line and throwing them into my yard. But praise the goddess, last year he and his nasty wife and bratty child moved away, probably to some suburban development with a fascist HOA to regulate its cookie-cutter McMansions and lawns of useless turfgrass.

Bayard

(24,145 posts)
31. Prospect neighborhood
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 11:59 AM
Oct 2023

That says it all. Lots of wealth there.

When we moved here 10 yrs ago, the whole front part of the property was a dead grass wasteland. The only trees were in the woods. I've lost count of how many trees we've planted, and some of the fast growers are now twice as tall as the house. Plus, we don't feel like we're living in a fishbowl now.

We also put in a large run off pond (which is now down to a small puddle--no rain), for the ducks, geese, and wildlife. I have a huge flower garden right in front of the house. The only thing we water is newly planted trees.

We have goats on one side, and horses on the other. They are quite efficient at mowing.

I actually lived next door to neighbors like this woman for several years in Louisville. It was terrific. They filled their backyard with native trees and plants, that had paths through it to look at everything. It was scandalous to the rest of the neighborhood, but we loved it.

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