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My dog who I thought had Cushing's, instead has SARDS - similar symptoms (Original Post) cilla4progress Apr 2023 OP
Oh no!! I've never heard of SARDS. MontanaMama Apr 2023 #1
I am so very sorry to hear this. Sending vibes for best possible outcome. niyad Apr 2023 #2
Thank you, DU fam! cilla4progress Apr 2023 #3
Never heard of this! So sorry for doggy, but he'll cope. Dogs don't understand the concept of Karadeniz Apr 2023 #4
It's tearing my guts out rn. cilla4progress Apr 2023 #5
As a person who cared for a blind dog for several years, I will sinkingfeeling Apr 2023 #6
Thank you cilla4progress Apr 2023 #7
Sorry to hear this, but Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #8
Thanks. cilla4progress Apr 2023 #9
I'm so sorry, how upsetting for you cksmithy Apr 2023 #10
Thank you for your kind reply, cksmithy! cilla4progress Apr 2023 #11
Excerpt: IMR: Newly Identified Eye Disease In Dogs ... Donkees Apr 2023 #12
Woah! cilla4progress Apr 2023 #13
It seems that the *key* difference between these two conditions might uncover the root cause ... Donkees Apr 2023 #14

MontanaMama

(24,024 posts)
1. Oh no!! I've never heard of SARDS.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:50 PM
Apr 2023

How old is your doggo? Is this a common thing? I'm so sorry to hear this.

cilla4progress

(25,918 posts)
3. Thank you, DU fam!
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:43 PM
Apr 2023

Jagger is 8. Seems to be very random with "unknown etiology."

We are kind of in a day-by-day right now. Focused on keeping him happy. Never thought we'd be here. He doesn't deserve this... well, no dog does!

Karadeniz

(23,424 posts)
4. Never heard of this! So sorry for doggy, but he'll cope. Dogs don't understand the concept of
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:58 PM
Apr 2023

being disabled.

sinkingfeeling

(53,000 posts)
6. As a person who cared for a blind dog for several years, I will
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 05:40 PM
Apr 2023

tell you that you will be more distressed than your dog. My girl quickly learned her way through the house and yard, went up and down 17 stairs, and could still take walks. Teach a few basic commands like 'step' and 'stop'. Don't relocate furniture and lead the way in new situations.

I am sorry your puppy has lost his sight, but he will adjust with lots of love.

Mr.Bill

(24,795 posts)
8. Sorry to hear this, but
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:13 PM
Apr 2023

you will find that dogs usually adapt well to this. My older dog is nearly blind and deaf. Dogs rely on their senses differently than us. To begin with, their eyesight is not nearly as good as ours. Most are color blind. They don't have to read, or rely on their eyes for as many tasks as we do. The worst thing for a dog would be to lose their sense of smell. They rely heavily on that. My dog still has enough sight to allow me to give her hand signals when close to her to compensate for the deafness. She seems perfectly content with her situation.

cilla4progress

(25,918 posts)
9. Thanks.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:40 PM
Apr 2023

I think the adjustment is the hardest. I can only imagine how hard this is on Jagger. I do hope he will get used to it.

cksmithy

(250 posts)
10. I'm so sorry, how upsetting for you
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 06:36 PM
Apr 2023

and your dog. I don't know about the disease symptoms, but our dog was nearly deaf and completely blind due to age for a few years before she passed away at 16 years. She was a border collie, very smart, it was a slow process and she adapted very well to changes. I would tap the side of her head, her side, back side, she would follow me to her food bowl, go outside, she always loved going on car rides, even if just around the block. We developed systems that she could understand. We took her on car rides constantly that last year. She enjoyed life and not being able to see didn't stop her. She never lost her ability to smell, so she always knew where we were. I hope/know you will be able to help your dog adjust to their new life.

cilla4progress

(25,918 posts)
11. Thank you for your kind reply, cksmithy!
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 07:40 PM
Apr 2023

Jagger is 8. We rescued him from an unhappy situation at about age 3. So, he's had an amazing 5 years hiking, xc skiiing, snowshoeing, fishing, riding with horses and bikes. He is/was such an athletic and coordinated dog, it's sad and hard to see his world narrow. We live on acreage and he's always ranged around here. He is sticking much closer.

Yeah, I'm trialing some new verbal commands with him, like "be careful," when he's about to run into a bush or stob. 😢

Donkees

(32,398 posts)
12. Excerpt: IMR: Newly Identified Eye Disease In Dogs ...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 06:36 AM
Apr 2023

FYI

Summary:
A professor of veterinary medicine has identified and named a previously unknown eye disease. Immune-Mediated Retinopathy, or IMR, causes loss of function in retinal cells and, in some cases, blindness. IMR is very similar to a previously known malady called Sudden Acquired Retinal Degeneration Syndrome or SARDS. Both diseases occur when the dog produces auto antibodies that attack the retinal cells. The antibodies mistake retinal cells for cancerous tumors or tissues that need to be destroyed.

In the process of attacking the retinal cells, the auto antibodies cause the retinal cells to lose function and the dog to lose some or all of its vision.

The difference between IMR and SARDS that Grozdanic identified is that the auto antibodies that attack the retinal cells in SARDS patients are produced in the eye. In the newly identified IMR, Grozdanic found that these auto antibodies are produced elsewhere in the dog and travel to the eyes in the blood.

This is a critical step in treating the disease because the source of the problem is better understood, according to Grozdanic.

"The whole purpose is to start to understand the disease better," he said. "The more we understand these diseases, the more proficient we will be developing new treatments."

Grozdanic says the evidence shows that approximately 2,000 cases of SARDS occur every year. Some of those cases may now be identified as IMR, and treated differently.

Tests show SARDS-affected eyes have almost no electrical activity. IMR-affected eyes have some electrical activity, and the retinal cells are not destroyed but have only lost function. These are the retinal cells that Grozdanic thinks can function again now that the origin of the problem is known.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080304173310.htm


SARDs and IMR are autoimmune diseases, which can frequently cause kidney damage (proteinuria, microalbuminuria, membranous glomerulonephritis), pancreatitis, low level of thyroid hormones (hypothyroidism), liver function abnormalities (elevation of liver enzymes, increased sensitivity to systemic steroid therapy), high blood pressure (systemic hypertension), pseudo-Cushing’s disease symptoms (excessive thirst and urination, excessive appetite and weight gain) and neurological symptoms (loss of vision, hearing, smell sensation, ataxia, depression, lethargy, change in mentation). These changes can be dangerous to the overall health of affected dogs. A detailed evaluation of the systemic organ status is highly recommended for these patients, even if no therapy for the possible vision restoration is planned.
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Are SARDs and IMR treatable diseases? – Over the last 10 years, our team had developed a completely novel diagnostic and treatment protocols for these diseases. We usually pursue systemic immunosuppressive therapy in combination with the systemic or intraocular intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIg) treatment with a goal of restoring some vision. In many patients, additional medical therapy is recommended to address possible abnormalities associated with function of different organs (kidneys, liver, endocrine glands, brain, etc.). We give the maximum effort to carefully tailor medical treatment for each patient with a goal of minimizing any possible side effects, and maximally increasing the chance for the successful treatment outcome. Based on our data, the most frequent cause of death in SARDS patients are pancreatitis, kidney failure and uncontrolled immune-mediated diseases affecting the gut, liver, brain and spinal cord. Similar causes of death are observed in IMR patients, however the patients with the history of the cancer, usually die as a result of the cancer progression.

Advanced SARDs and IMR: These dogs are characterized with a complete day and night vision loss, have abnormal chromatic pupil light reflex responses, and completely extinguished ERG responses "flat ERG". Frequently these patients will have a history of the abnormal weight gain, excessive appetite, excessive thirst and urination, and history of elevated liver enzymes or presence of protein in the urine. These patients have 65% therapeutic success rate in terms of recovering visual navigation skills in bright light conditions, 30% success rate in terms of recovering menace response (hand motion detection) and 20% success rate in terms of tracking small objects in the visual field when treated with immunosuppressive medications in a timely manner. For more detailed information on the diagnosis, clinical findings and molecular mechanism of advanced SARDS you can view our conference presentation (ACVO 2022) and read our peer reviewed articles which are published online:

https://animal-eye-iowa.com/sardsimr/#:~:text=Early%20SARDs%20and%20IMR%3A%20Dogs,inability%20to%20see%20small%20treats%2C

cilla4progress

(25,918 posts)
13. Woah!
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 08:29 AM
Apr 2023

I never found this detail! Thank you - not sure where to go from here?

Ok - found a veterinary opthamologist. Probably can't afford it..but will check it out! Didn't know it was treatable! Thanks!

Donkees

(32,398 posts)
14. It seems that the *key* difference between these two conditions might uncover the root cause ...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 09:19 AM
Apr 2023

of the immune system 'over-reaction', and might reveal what is going on in other organ systems. There is a separate test for IMR, and if these treatments can help improve your dog's overall health and vision, it's important information for you to build on. The specialist you found might be more familiar with these recent developments. Whatever research information we find and post here, goes on to help others. All best wishes

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