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japple

(10,328 posts)
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 12:07 PM Aug 2023

Dr. Jeff Talks About the Future of Veterinary Medicine & Why The Industry is at a Crossroads

Even though there is a low-cost spay/neuter clinic in my area, people are having to wait 3-4 weeks for appointments for their animals. And another low-cost clinic in my area just lost their only surgical vet. Fortunately, our county animal control sells certificates for sp/neuter at $75 cats and $85 dogs and that includes a rabies shot and microchip, which is a great deal, but some of the participating vets start tacking on other charges which many people cannot afford. What are things like in your area? Are you seeing the same thing?

The cost of veterinary care has become so expensive. I call this economic euthanasia....namely, people having to put their animals to sleep because they can't afford the proper care and treatment. This has become a greater problem than overpopulation. It's a topic on which Dr. Jeff is very passionate, and he explains the situation in more detail in this video.


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Dr. Jeff Talks About the Future of Veterinary Medicine & Why The Industry is at a Crossroads (Original Post) japple Aug 2023 OP
Thank you for this. hermetic Aug 2023 #1
I have been shocked by the sky rocketing vet costs over the last 20 years. My cat's sinkingfeeling Aug 2023 #2
I love dogs but my current one is my last one Doc Sportello Aug 2023 #3
Some of my neighbors have animal medical insurance jimfields33 Aug 2023 #4
Two vet clinics in my area RainCaster Aug 2023 #5
My dogs have had 2 major vet bills over the past year. intheflow Aug 2023 #6
I love cats, and have always had at least two. The last one died, after around $2000 in vet Tess49 Aug 2023 #7
He's right, prices for vet services have really escalated n/t Backseat Driver Aug 2023 #8
The good vet I had several years ago sold his practice to a corporation which japple Aug 2023 #9

hermetic

(8,622 posts)
1. Thank you for this.
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 12:19 PM
Aug 2023

There are 2 vet clinics in my small town. The one in town has had to stop taking new patients, they are so overwhelmed. At the other vet who is away from town, they just had one vet retire so were down to 2 until last week. They specialize in large animals and dogs so cats aren't really getting the care they need. Every day I wish I had become a veterinarian, but the need was not pressing back then. So I went for nonprofit management, instead.

sinkingfeeling

(53,000 posts)
2. I have been shocked by the sky rocketing vet costs over the last 20 years. My cat's
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 12:21 PM
Aug 2023

last visit for a CBC and thyroid test was over $300. I had another cat with hyperthyroidism in the early 90's and the test cost $35.

I agree with this guy and hate that everything is now owned by 'investors'.

Doc Sportello

(7,962 posts)
3. I love dogs but my current one is my last one
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 12:28 PM
Aug 2023

It's just gotten too expensive. And it seems like every vet now is "upselling" - as described in the article with tacked on fees, as well as in house products that cost twice as much as online, and pushing people for ever more costly testing. I've had four different vets in three years and still can't find one that cares more about the animals than they do the money.

That doesn't even get into the cost of food (almost double what it was four years ago) and grooming (more than double what it was four years ago). Still I can't put my dog down for economic reasons. I guess I will live out my remaining years in debt but it's still wotht it for what he continues to provide me in terms of happiness.

jimfields33

(18,905 posts)
4. Some of my neighbors have animal medical insurance
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 12:43 PM
Aug 2023

They say it’s saved them many times from crippling bills.

RainCaster

(11,548 posts)
5. Two vet clinics in my area
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 12:47 PM
Aug 2023

We stopped using the first when he retired and the price more than doubled with the new vet-owner.

We still use the second one as that vet is very old school and keeps her prices quite reasonable. But she is in her 80s and won't treat large breed dogs any more because she can't lift them up to the exam table.

intheflow

(28,941 posts)
6. My dogs have had 2 major vet bills over the past year.
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 01:51 PM
Aug 2023

First Bert got heartworm and the treatment was $800. Three months later, both dogs found a porcupine. We quill removal for two dogs was $2500. Vets won’t see you unless you can pay for your visit at time of visit, which is fucking ridiculous. I’m couldn’t afford my car insurance so lost it for a month; cost to get it reinstated was about $1200, also had to be paid up front in cash, and doubled my monthly car insurance bill to $400/mo, which is twice what I was paying before the vet bills. I don’t have credit cards so all of this comes straight from my bank account. It’s bullshit I’m punished for not using credit. This country hates poor people.

Tess49

(1,598 posts)
7. I love cats, and have always had at least two. The last one died, after around $2000 in vet
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 03:12 PM
Aug 2023

bills trying to save her. After that I realized I could no longer afford to take proper care of another cat. Makes me feel poor.

Backseat Driver

(4,635 posts)
8. He's right, prices for vet services have really escalated n/t
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 03:12 PM
Aug 2023

So have basic pharmaceutical preventions like flea and tick, heartworm. Then there's the scheduled vaccines for every fearsome disease they might possibly contract and annual wellness exams. There is a fairly recent monthly pill-type that requires a script that also includes disease prevention that includes mosquito bites; it costs upwards of $100 per pill per dog per month. I have two little ones that are never in dog parks or off leash. Dogs are different than cats in their responses to medications, but one must use some types of "safer" preventions if one has both dog and kitty pets that interact in the home and those are also more expensive than single-species prevention types/formulas. With climate change temperatures getting warmer, the seasons are getting longer than April to October, and year-around treatment is now being recommended. Human medications used for animals (generally generic, thank goodness) is also prescribed more frequently, but there are plenty of specie specific brand named ones as well. Specialized diets with vet-only distribution and holistic herbs and supplements including Chinese medicines in pet-sized dosages. There aren't enough vets, let alone naturopathic ones, around town that deal with birds. The wild ones won't do pets; the pet ones won't see wild/feral domestic ones (like ducks, geese, or rabbits or small rodent species (hamsters, guinea pigs) or snakes and lizards. IDK anything about vets and farm animal fees for services out in rural American. Are farriers, horse, cattle, and sheep vet charges greatly increased as well?

My previous pooch, a short-haired Mountain Feist, died at age 12 because we were unemployed, and his vet's fees were astronomical at a time of our unemployment, so the vet guessed wrong. He had an adrenal/heart-associated genetically seeded tumor, a pleochromocytoma, but she treated him with a topical script for a chronic skin disease, lupus erythematosis, since we could not afford the imaging or testing required then for invisible cancers. Returning for that testing at a different vet at the vet hospital in town, we learned of his problem after another emergency symptom popped up one day. He had a $6,000 financed surgery then by a referred specialist surgeon/oncologist as it had invaded the lining along his vena cava (not metastatic) that was successful, but he had complications from the anesthesia with post-surgical shock and died before we could be called.

I took my 12-year-old Havanese to a lower cost-clinic for dental cleaning recommended by her regular vet practice (A, VCA-branded practice, under anesthesia and a second opinion on care (surgical vs holistic) of what appeared to be an ACL injury on one leg. The low-cost clinic prognosis said the injury on one leg would lead to an injury on the other leg. I chose holistic anyway since they told me both would heal with homecare restrictions but she'd have arthritis. For a senior dog, anyway, she's done well with those diagnosed injuries. She also flunked that pre-dental blood test to judge readiness for anesthesia. Instead, the low-cost vet told me her numbers were off and she may have Cushings disease (a vet diagnosed chronic trending disease either due to pituitary tumor or adrenal problem) and needed additional expensive testings and medicine because they needed to know which organ was diseased. Same deal in a 12 year old who has a life span that pushes 15-16 years in any case. (same thing here - holistic supplements to hold down her cortisol and improve liver numbers and inflammation) and a plaque preventer in her water (teeth look better though they are probably not) because I just can't afford upwards of $1000 for any surgery anymore and continuous testing/medication change from either practice. I'd never let them purposely suffer with a rapidly approaching painful problem nor take them to a vet or shelter that jumped to say "put 'em down" as the only choice.

Another problem: Both my dogs require 4-6 week groomings. I'm getting too old for bending over in the tub on my knees. Mattes seem to take shape in minutes despite many brushings, and you can't bath them before getting all those out because it tightens the tangled mattes. A mobile groomer used to do both for $120 about every 8 weeks; now she travels the world competitions with her own agility dogs and it got difficult to get the next appointment when the $$$ were available. Now each one costs that much for full-service including nails, etc...Wow, did that go up and you read so many horror stories. People the hair grows back, but the lacerations of ears, tails, genitals, and paws! and brutalities when groomers lose their patience...you need to do a lot of research on each candidate, testimonials, and find excellent ones to prevent even more vet visits or litigation for compensation. I never expected such a fast rise in grooming prices over two decade ago. I pay less at a salon for a cut, wash and style.

japple

(10,328 posts)
9. The good vet I had several years ago sold his practice to a corporation which
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 04:46 PM
Aug 2023

he didn't announce at the time, but his charges for services crept upwards. Then he moved to another state and the vets that are there now and their staff are employees of the corporation. I am grateful for the discount they give me whenever I take strays or community cats that are going to rescue, but it has just about put an end to what I am able to do in my community.

I have 6 cats of my own and between annual exams, vaccinations and flea treatments, I am going to have to be very careful. What really galls me is that a prescription is required for Revolution flea treatment and they will not sell it to me if my pet has not been in for a yearly exam. Even though 4 of the cats are indoor only, I must use flea treatment on all 6 as they are also exposed to heartworm thru mosquito bites. This is a HUGE racket.

My goal in life is to outlive all the cats I have and hope there is enough left over to take care of my sister and me.

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