American History
Related: About this forumWill Trump become known as the worst President in all American History?
Worse than Nixon? Worse than Hoover? Worse than James Buchanan? ( He was the one right before
Abe Lincoln..for information)
Done and done.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)many say, nothing could have prevented the Civil War with Lincoln's election..
StClone
(11,869 posts)Ohiogal
(34,711 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(28,392 posts)Stay tuned.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Tell me then....How did Trump become President of the U.S. ? ...
MyOwnPeace
(17,275 posts)74 million votes from the "Idiot" crowd in November!
It is NOT time to rest - we have much work to do....
OAITW r.2.0
(28,392 posts)A lotta stupid people voted for Trump. Been a 40 year voter tradition.
dameatball
(7,603 posts)dewsgirl
(14,964 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Squinch
(52,752 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)That means comparing the very, very, very bad....I recall....Nixon had a ..."secret plan to end the Viet Nam War......THERE WAS NO PLAN!!!!........................................
...That lie killed tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands...there was ...NO PLAN..
...ALSO, Nixon covered up ....Watergate...so there are competitors for..Worst Ever...
Squinch
(52,752 posts)And did he try to engineer the overt and violent overthrow of the American Democracy by inciting murder attempts against the Vice President and Congress?
Trump is the worst. Ever. By a mile.
Glorfindel
(9,923 posts)Franklin Pierce was the one right before Buchanan. However, I can't imagine there's any debate about who is the WORST president: tRump. No one else is even close.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Mistake has been corrected in the Original Post....time to hide again... ...
ret5hd
(21,320 posts)nocoincidences
(2,319 posts)Does Trump shit in the rough?
HELL, yes!!
sop
(11,212 posts)Jamesyu
(259 posts)Then when he came in.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,883 posts)He took no action to unite a country divided over the issue of slavery and did nothing to stop Southern states from seceding in the lead-up to the Civil War, and dumped the whole mess in the lap of Lincoln, his successor.
But now his ghost is celebrating.
Late at night, in the bowels of the White House, a spectral meeting is taking place. It's the weekly poker game of the ghosts of James Buchanan, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson, Warren Harding and Richard Nixon. The Worst Presidents Ever.
"What do you think, gentlemen?" said Buchanan as he cut the cards. "Do you think this Trump will be joining us soon...? You know, I'm no longer the worst president ever. All the historians think he's the worst and he's not even dead yet."
"I expect he might be, what with this bug that's going around," said Harding. "You know, I've been getting grief now for almost a hundred years for my corrupt administration but we were a bunch of Boy Scouts compared to him. It'll be nice to finally move down a couple notches on the Worst Presidents list."
Nixon lit an ectoplasmic cigar. "When I lived here I did have a few problems. It's nice to come back and haunt the place but I hate to see it occupied by such a bunch of low-life grifters. Shit, I never made a nickel off Watergate."
Buchanan dealt the cards. Pierce looked at his hand and shook his head. "Crap, I never had much luck with this game when I was alive, either."
"I got impeached," Johnson said. "I didn't deserve it and I was acquitted. Trump got impeached and acquitted, and now he's been impeached again. He's committed more impeachable offenses than I ever even thought of. He's damn lucky the Senate had even less balls than mine did. Hell, all I did was try to fire Edwin Stanton. I kind of fucked up Reconstruction, too, but at least I never stirred up an insurrection."
"You were a terrible bigot," said Nixon.
"You should talk," Johnson replied. "I heard those tapes of yours. I wish I'd had tapes in my day."
Fillmore sipped his spectral whiskey and remarked, "Harry Truman once said I was a 'weak, trivial thumb-twaddler who would do nothing to offend anyone.' I'm still not speaking to him. But at least I was never a fucking Russian spy and I didn't start a riot."
Nixon said, "We were all shitty presidents. But when Trump arrives I don't think I want him in this game. He'll cheat, for one thing. And he's an asshole."
Buchanan said, "Not only that, but he'll bluster and brag. The man has no class. I don't mind if that little Bush fella joins us someday; he's dumb and he's probably a terrible poker player but he knows some good jokes. By the way, Dick, you were an asshole, too."
"When Bush comes maybe I'll get to win once in awhile," said Pierce.
"Let's have a toast to me. I'm no longer considered the worst president in American history. Trump's got me beat by a country mile. I look like fucking Abe Lincoln next to him," said Buchanan. At that moment Abraham Lincoln briefly materialized and said, "No, Jim, you really don't," and vanished just as quickly. Buchanan sighed and muttered under his breath, "Damn, Abe still thinks he's all that..."
"I fold," said Pierce. "Trump. What a dick. He's already turned out to be way worse than any of us ever were. We merely sucked. He's....."
Nixon said, "That fat fucker is a disgrace even to us, the worst presidents ever. I don't want to wait until he's dead to tell him what's what, since none of the Republicans are gonna do it. You know, I don't even want to play poker with Trump when he croaks. We should haunt him now."
Harding replied, "Brilliant! Let's do it!" He tried to fist-bump Nixon, but because he was made of ectoplasm the gesture was futile.
And so the ghosts of the Worst American Presidents started appearing to Trump in various places in the White House. Pierce tried to moon him but because he was transparent the gesture was not very effective. Although they enjoyed slipping through walls and making obscene gestures, after awhile the ghosts gave up and went back to their poker game because Trump was going batshit crazy without their help.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Great post!
Generic Other
(29,000 posts)I was hoping to donate it to the Smithsonian.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Squidly
(867 posts)Skittles
(159,374 posts)HE ALREADY IS
lastlib
(24,918 posts)"I'm grappling with the word "become"....... He has already *become* that--so bad that he is now widely known as "he whose name shall not be spoken."
Worse than Nixon? YES
Worse than Hoover? YES
Worse than Buchanan? YES
Next discussion, please.
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,925 posts)Karadeniz
(23,424 posts)If you plug in Presidential Rankings, there are several surveys that have great news. The one I love surveyed 170 historians, etc, from both political persuasions and Trump came in LAST!!! This survey came out in 2018, I think... I think we can assume that Trump hasn't done anything since then to elevate his status. Another survey was mailed to 150 or so experts and they ranked him NEXT TO LAST. I bet that now he'll manage to barge his way into last place.