American History
Related: About this forumMy 6 Year old granddaughter asked why witches wear pointy hats
A little too dark to explain to a child, but we can see nothing changes in over 500 years.
So if you traveled back in time to the Middle Ages or the Renaissance and went to a market in England, youd probably see an oddly familiar sight: women wearing tall, pointy hats. In many instances, theyd be standing in front of big cauldrons. But these women were no witches; they were brewers. They wore the tall, pointy hats so that their customers could see them in the crowded marketplace. They transported their brew in cauldrons. And those who sold their beer out of stores had cats not as demon familiars, but to keep mice away from the grain. Some argue that iconography we associate with witches, from the pointy hat to the cauldron, originated from women working as master brewers.
Just as women were establishing their foothold in the beer markets of England, Ireland and the rest of Europe, the Reformation began. The religious movement, which originated in the early 16th century, preached stricter gender norms and condemned witchcraft.
Male brewers saw an opportunity. To reduce their competition in the beer trade, some accused female brewers of being witches and using their cauldrons to brew up magic potions instead of booze.
Unfortunately, the rumors took hold. Over time, it became more dangerous for women to practice brewing and sell beer because they could be misidentified as witches. At the time, being accused of witchcraft wasnt just a social faux pas; it could result in prosecution or a death sentence. Women accused of witchcraft were often ostracized in their communities, imprisoned or even killed.
Some men didnt really believe that the women brewers were witches. However, many did believe that women shouldnt be spending their time making beer. The process took time and dedication: hours to prepare the ale, sweep the floors clean and lift heavy bundles of rye and grain. If women couldnt brew ale, they would have significantly more time at home to raise their children. In the 1500s some towns, such as Chester, England, actually made it illegal for most women to sell beer, worried that young alewives would grow up into old spinsters.
Lovie777
(15,050 posts)... that is an astounding bit of history. Thanks so much for posting this.
And yeah, nothing has changed.
Jeez.
rurallib
(63,207 posts)I would love to read it.
progressoid
(50,753 posts)https://www.vice.com/en/article/witches-hats-alewife-brewster-history/
I've also read connections to an anti-Quaker sentiment or anti-Jewish sentiment
https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/10/the-history-of-the-witch-s-hat-origins-of-its-pointy-design.html
Marigold
(204 posts)There are also theories that are connected to anti Quaker and anti semitism. I also read that women brewers would put a broomstick on their entrance door to indicate they were open for business.
rurallib
(63,207 posts)TlalocW
(15,625 posts)The guy finds an old recipe, recreates it, and taste-tests it while giving a history lesson about the dish/time period. I recently watched one about a stew that dealt with the differences between inns, taverns, and alehouses, and he mentioned that it was often women running alehouses, which were just out of their own homes, and he talked about their hanging up a long stick over their doors to show they were open. He didn't tie it to witches though.
rurallib
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(1,561 posts)History rhymes.
But beyond that, I really enjoyed that information!! Thank you!
displacedvermoter
(3,047 posts)Thank you
Deep State Witch
(11,274 posts)I'll drink to that!
BattleRow
(1,201 posts)Otterdaemmerung
(100 posts)that the reason a witch's hat is pointy is the same reason an umbrella is pointy: it helps shed the rain when they're flying on their brooms.
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getagrip_already
(17,449 posts)It's the yeast and fermentation temps, not the hops.
But they didn't know what yeast was. It was all natural yeast fermentation.
KS Toronado
(19,596 posts)rubbersole
(8,534 posts)...I thought St Pauli Girl was a happy beer server. A republican image scrubber no doubt. 😏 🍻
mahina
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(18,945 posts)To find peer revieed hourbal articles on any topic. It is not comprehensive, but it is better than reading any random opinion and/ or hustle.
For medical research use the search term PubMed
Librarian taught me those things. Yay libraries. Yay librarians.
LoisB
(8,709 posts)TlalocW
(15,625 posts)About a man and his son walking home close to dusk when a small animal darted across their paths. They started throwing rocks and sticks at it as they chased it to the home of a woman some suspected of being a witch. The animal entered the house, and they saw it was a black cat. The next day, the woman appeared in the village, bruised and bandaged, confirming she was a witch who had transformed into a cat.
It doesn't take much imagination to see how the woman appearing in town in that state would get the tongues wagging, and if she were an ale wife, a male competitor would see his opportunity to get rid of some competition with a story, and once she was dealt with, the village folk would continue talking about her and how they always thought there was something strange about her.
TBF
(34,348 posts)that they didn't really burn "witches", they burned women.
I think your history definitely accentuates that as well - women were getting uppity (in this case having the audacity to practice brewing & sell beer) - so men felt like it was time to put them in their place. History repeats itself ....
Figarosmom
(2,730 posts)Not just women but troublesome women. I'm sure many were lovers that became inconvenient or women other women didn't like ir whatever. Labeled a witch just to be rid of.
Marcuse
(8,009 posts)surfered
(3,181 posts)Figarosmom
(2,730 posts)It's unfortunate the lies seem to stick in society instead of truth. I would have thought that as much as people liked the brew they would have protected the brewers I stead of vilifying
Dear_Prudence
(835 posts)In my childhood doll collection, I have a doll in national Welsh costume. She wears a tall black hat, not pointed but very tall. When my daughter was young, she got scared of witches. I showed her the doll, told her that her great granny was Welsh, (true), and that stupid people who don't like the Welsh made up the whole story of witches and told ugly stories about Welsh hats. My daughter was no longer afraid, since that tall black hat is our heritage. So, I have no references and no verification, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it! (Thank you for the factual tale, but I don't think it would have been as effective in soothing my daughter's fear. Good to know tho!)