here's an article for lols

[beergood]

White resentment is fueling opposition to gun control, researchers say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/04/white-resentment-is-fueling-opposition-to-gun-control-researchers-say/

what a load of bs.

[JackInGreen]

1. I don't know if it's that much BS

I've been and am a gun owner, have had friends both liberal and conservative that have owned and been proud of their collections and skill with them. It's only at a gun show have I heard so many armed people use racial slurs with such vehemence with a good dose of 'this'll show em'. Take it as anecdotal and it might not be your experience, but it's certainly been mine.

[gejohnston]

5. What kind of gun shows do you go to?

I haven't seen anything like that even in the South and California.

[safeinOhio]

2. Doesn't Ted Nugent

prove the point?

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. No more than Mike Bloomberg 'proves' that gun controllers are control freaks

[ileus]

3. We shouldn't be in the business of giving up rights to be popular.

In fact as progressives we should oppose giving up rights for any reason....always.

[safeinOhio]

4. Not so cut and dry

Unless you also support the right to use religion to not sell flowers and cakes to certain groups of people. So, be careful with "any reason".

[friendly_iconoclast]

7. False equivalence. The practices you mention violate the Fourteenth Amendment...

...and are no more actual 'rights' than the supposed 'right to feel safe' sometimes mooted
at DU by those of the ammophobic persuasion

[safeinOhio]

8. OK, how about

Using the 2nd to force someone to join a local militia against his or her will?

[beevul]

9. Impossible.

Amendment 2 restricts only government, and authorizes nothing.

[safeinOhio]

10. Possible

I'm sure someone could say it does and it would go to court. As it only restricts government, what's to stop a local group saying the Constitution requires all people of a certain age be part of the militia......

[beevul]

11. Thats easy.

As it only restricts government, what's to stop a local group saying the Constitution requires all people of a certain age be part of the militia......

The fact that neither amendment 2 in the BOR nor the militia clause in the constitution contain no such authorizations.

Outside that, they can say it all they like, and professional constitutional scholars will correctly claim they're incorrect and the rest of us will point and laugh.

[safeinOhio]

12. Not any easier

than saying religious reasons prevent a public business from serving people they don't like.

[beevul]

13. There is no constitutional foundation for your example.

No apples and oranges comparison you might come up with can change that.

[safeinOhio]

14. Of coarse there is

You are just not seeing it.

Asked my lawyer friend and he says it's apples and apples.

[beevul]

15. Cool story bro.

Get someone else to chase down the rabbit hole.

[branford]

17. You don't need the Second Amend to for what you suggest.

Conscription has been repeatedly upheld without any reference whatsoever to the Second Amendment.

In fact, the Second Amendment is only a limitation on government, as is much of the Bill of Rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

[Eleanors38]

16. But I thought it was the Peter Principle!

[beergood]

18. im sorry

but what is the Peter Principle?

[DonP]

19. An old concept from the '60's and '70's

IIRC, It posited that an individual or organization would rise, until they reached a point of utter incompetence and stay there while they slowly died off.

It could easily be pointed out that that's where gun control arrived several years ago.

[Eleanors38]

20. As in the sociological expression, but I'm playing on the expression...

...so it will double as the usual obsession controllers have for Penis®.