Trump echoes Mexican president, says lax US gun laws help arm drug cartels

[Eugene]

Source: The Guardian

Trump echoes Mexican president, says lax US gun laws help arm drug cartels

Republican nominee said ‘No one wins in either country when …
illegal weapons and cash flow from the United States into Mexico’,
which could upset the NRA

Lois Beckett
Thursday 1 September 2016 18.23 BST

For years, Mexican politicians have said lax US gun laws help to arm the country’s drug cartels.

At a press conference with Donald Trump on Wednesday in Mexico City, President Enrique Peña Nieto said: “Every year, thousands of weapons and millions of US dollars in cash enter illegally into Mexico from the north, strengthening the cartels and other criminal organizations that create violence in Mexico.”

The National Rifle Association (NRA), one of Trump’s key conservative backers, has long rejected such claims, arguing that guns sold by American dealers and smuggled across the border are not a major driver of crime in Mexico.

On Wednesday, however, in a largely conciliatory speech in Mexico City that preceded a more aggressive address on immigration at home in Arizona, Trump did not question Peña Nieto’s comment about guns. Instead, the Republican presidential candidate echoed the Mexican president’s longtime talking points.

“No one wins in either country when human smugglers and drug traffickers prey on innocent people, when cartels commit acts of violence, when illegal weapons and cash flow from the United States into Mexico,” Trump said.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/01/donald-trump-mexico-visit-guns-drug-cartels-nra

[Iliyah]

1. T-rump talks with fork tongue

NRA is 100% backing him, enough said.

[friendly_iconoclast]

3. He is a huckster-he says what he thinks his audience of the moment wants to hear

Many, many fools fall for it.

[landolfi]

4. They need to give his leash a good yank.

[friendly_iconoclast]

2. I see The Donald is keeping to his usual standard of accuracy...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

5. Does this mean that when the argument is made here we can dismiss it as a GOP talking point?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

6. IDK but perhaps it means that while voting for HRC is good...

...trump isn't as bad as he used to be.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

7. You like to live dangerously.

I'll wager that even with the sarcasm tag an alert is in the offing.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

8. If you think that's dangerous...

...you should see me dance at weddings!

[pablo_marmol]

12. !

[sarisataka]

9. Should I follow the advice

of our gun control contingent?

Vote like you are a single issue voter if only for an election cycle or two.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/126211463#post2

[gejohnston]

10. At least Trump is being consistent,

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consistently running his mouth without having someone checking the facts first. That is partly why most Republicans don't like him.

The Mexican army regularly seizes arsenals of small arms from stockpiles, abandoned after firefights or concealed inside vehicles driven by drug traffickers. In June, a "narco rebellion" in the border city of Piedras Negras resulted sporadic firefights lasting hours. After it was over, the military had turned up 50 AK-47 rifles, along with grenade launchers, various machine guns, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. But the cartels are also getting increasingly more powerful guns. In March, firefights between police and the Zetas netted both M-60 and a .30-caliber Browning machine gun. Sniper rifles and machine guns up to the .50-caliber size have been discovered. The Mexican military has even turned up a German MG34 machine gun from World War II.

https://www.wired.com/2012/11/cartel-weapons/
While the article perpetuates the 90 percent myth, I missed the machine gun sale at Gander Mountain.
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth?elq=6a17bc29c1694cfeaaf51911c845cc36&utm_campaign=110210&utm_content=readmore&utm_medium=email&utm_source=SWeekly

[gejohnston]

11. post script,

The reason the Mexican government is scapegoating our gun laws is because the oligarchs that actually run the place is in bed with the cartels, many of the weapons our government sells to their government lands up in cartel hands, and that is before we get to human rights violations,
like local cops turning protesters over to cartels for execution
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/12/german-guns-in-mexico-and-5-levels-of.html

My question to the Mexican president, Why doesn't Canada have the problem? What about the border wall with Guatemala where Mexican authorities execute, rob, and rape undocumented migrants from Central America who manage to make it over the wall?

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/12/german-guns-in-mexico-and-5-levels-of.html
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/drugs,-murder-and-corruption-in-mexico/5955084
http://www.businessinsider.com/mexican-government-sinaloa-cartel-cooperation

[friendly_iconoclast]

13. "Why doesn't Canada have the problem?" You weren't supposed to ask that question...

...or even think of it- too 'inconvenient'.