Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumEd: Strengthen gun store security to close off armories for criminals
The Florida Legislature made it illegal in 1989 for an adult to leave a firearm within reach of a child. It was the rare example of a courageous response to the devastation of gun violence from a body generally more interested in eliminating restrictions on carrying and using firearms. The powerful gun lobby didn't even resist. The measure served as a model for other states. It is now time to expand that move toward responsible gun ownership by requiring those who sell firearms to protect them so they won't serve as virtual armories for Florida's criminals.
Twice in one year, thieves broke into Tampa gun stores and made off with about 40 guns each time. Soon after the most recent break-in, Nov. 29, one of the guns was found with a teenager suspected in the shooting death of an Orlando mother as she sat in her car with her child.
Then last week, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd took to his soapbox to scold store owners who shirk the "ethical and moral responsibility to secure their guns." Judd was disgusted at a theft again, about 40 firearms from Rapture Guns & Knives in Lakeland, a glass-fronted, strip-center store whose owner had just been warned by detectives about security.
Judd, after declaring his own libertarian leanings, questioned why the free market hasn't moved to hold gun store owners accountable for shoddy security practices. How do they get insurance, for example, or business loans?
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-strengthen-gun-store-security-to-close-off-armories-for-criminals/2309538
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,593 posts)...and have a friend who worked for the department for a bit. It certainly seems reasonable to me that individual states establish what security measures are required for stores that stock firearms.
HAB911
(9,365 posts)he's a redneck camera hog
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,593 posts)HAB911
(9,365 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)So rude.
Spiggitzfan
(35 posts)A local gun store has been in the news 3 times for theft of a large number of guns each time. (Ironic that all those guns and they still weren't able to protect themselves. So much for "an armed country is a safe country." After open carry passed there's been a great increase of guns stolen from cars. And the thieves openly say that a car or house with lots of NRA & "Come & take it" stickers/signs might as well have a target drawn on it. One asshole put out a sign pointing to his neighbor's house, saying that the person was unarmed & could easily be robbed. The thieves robbed *his* house, guessing correctly that he had a stockpile of valuable weapons.
When/if these guns hurt/kill someone, I'll bet Texas doesn't try to hard to trace them, because the inconvenient evidence might point to a need for gun control. Republicans will never let evidence disturb their cult-like worship of guns.
HAB911
(9,365 posts)Waldorf_
(16 posts)carry permit to open carry. No constitutional carry here.
And as a concealed carry user, I have yet to see someone open carrying. I live in the D/FW area.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Clearly, we're dealing with a victim of the GCRDF.*
*"Gun Control" Reality Distortion Field
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)or drove a stolen vehicle through the front door. All done in the early morning/late night hours. Multiple persons enter, break casses, cut cables, grab what they can and leave in a waiting vehicle. All this done in a strip shopping center with no cameras.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Doug.Goodall
(1,241 posts)There are laws against breaking and entering. There are laws against theft of property. There are laws against Grand Theft. There are law against receiving stolen property. There are laws against shooting people to death while sitting in a car.
Just what additional laws do you propose to eliminate this lack of security in retail establishments that sell guns?
yagotme
(3,918 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The Ashley gang (c1910-1926) of South Florida preferred BAR full-autos to the wimpy Thompsons, and who gonna call? Armories.
yagotme
(3,918 posts)the anti-gunners keep making, doesn't hold up that well for this.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)No need to victimize the victim. Gun laws aren't necessary, but I would support a mandatory minimum of 50 years in all gun theft convictions.
yagotme
(3,918 posts)Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Lax security isn't a good idea.