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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 08:39 PM Jan 2021

Gun show report: A seller's market.

Went to a small gun show over the weekend. If you want an $800 SKS, a bottom of the line AR-15 for $900, a bunch of M1 Carbines for $1200 to $2000 each, or a Norinco AK-47 with a thumbhole stock for $2500, this was the show for you! All the 9mm or .45 ACP FMJ you could ask for at $50 to $70 a box. 5.56x45 starts at a buck a round, green tip SS109 $1.50 to $2 a round. 7.62x39 also $1 a round.

One guy did have a bunch of interesting early 20th Century pistols, but none of them had price tags. After I asked out of curiosity how much he wanted for the Spanish Jo Lo Ar (a weird 9mm Largo handgun whose slide can be retracted using only one hand), I found out why. In nice shape it's a $900-ish gun. His was beat up, and he wanted $1200.

Magazines weren't too overpriced, oddly enough, so I picked up a Magpul 60 round drum for my AR. AR drums are notoriously unreliable, but from everything I've seen Magpul is the exception.

One bright spot: At a previous show a guy had an AMT Automag IV .45 Magnum (not a typo, it's an obscure caliber) with a price tag of $1,000 on it. The Blue Book says it's only worth $600-ish in nice shape, but the last few that sold on Gunbroker all went for $1500 to $2000, so I took a chance and bought it. A short time later, I decided to see what I could get for it, and had an auction house list it. The auction just ended, and it sold for $2500.

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Gun show report: A seller's market. (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 OP
the purpose of guns is to kill people nt msongs Jan 2021 #1
Many guns are designed for that purpose, granted. Not all. Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #6
They are designed to kill canuckledragger Jan 2021 #9
Weasel words? Straw Man Jan 2021 #10
Target practice shooting serves... sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #11
To practice killing birds. Straw Man Jan 2021 #12
Gun control's favorite catch-22 sarisataka Jan 2021 #16
With that 'logic', sport shooting should be a hotbed of future spree killers. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2021 #17
This. yagotme Feb 2021 #18
"Or is the pictured gun incapable of killing?" EX500rider Apr 2021 #22
Well, I didn't buy mine to tickle people krispos42 Jan 2021 #13
Exactly so. I'll freely grant that most of the guns I own were designed to kill people. Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt Jan 2021 #2
Supply and demand. The latter is off the charts. Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #5
Wow. Not the type of post I thought I would see in the GUN CONTROL Group Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #3
The name of the groups is Gun Control and RKBA. Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #4
Was that an online Auction? Was the buyer local? rgbecker Jan 2021 #7
Yes it was, and I have no idea who bought it. Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #14
LOL ok! Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #8
Yeah happy to to see the price of the WWI/WWII bolt actions going up also.. EX500rider Apr 2021 #19
Want to double your money on that M39? Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #20
: ) It is a straight shooter too.. EX500rider Apr 2021 #21

Straw Man

(6,778 posts)
10. Weasel words?
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:24 AM
Jan 2021

I think you'd better check on your definition of "designed." This gun was designed to break little clay disks as they fly through the air. It's long, it's heavy, and it only holds one round -- and not a magnum round at that. It's slow to reload. If I told the designer that I wanted something to kill with and was presented with this, I would fire that designer.

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)
11. Target practice shooting serves...
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 07:05 AM
Jan 2021

...to improve skill with a killing machine.
Or is the pictured gun incapable of killing?



Straw Man

(6,778 posts)
12. To practice killing birds.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 09:59 PM
Jan 2021

That's how trap and skeet originated. I have no ethical problem with that. Do you?

Trap and skeet guns aren't for practice killing humans. Humans don't fly.

sarisataka

(21,040 posts)
16. Gun control's favorite catch-22
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jan 2021

"Guns are dangerous items capable of killing. No one should be allowed to own a gun without training and demonstration of proficiency. "

"Training and target practice is just learning how to commit murder with a killing machine. Anyone who does that should not be allowed to own a gun."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
17. With that 'logic', sport shooting should be a hotbed of future spree killers.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:45 PM
Jan 2021

By your interlocutor's reasoning, many (if not most) of those participating
should have been turned into a bunch of Raymond Shaws by now.

All that practicing, y' know...

ref: The Manchurian Candidate

yagotme

(3,819 posts)
18. This.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 05:40 PM
Feb 2021

None of my firearms have killed anyone since I have owned them (many are WW1/WW2 surplus). I read them the riot act when they arrive at my home. Some have resided here for almost 40 years. Long time for a "killing machine" to go without killing.
:}

EX500rider

(11,491 posts)
22. "Or is the pictured gun incapable of killing?"
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:44 PM
Apr 2021

My steak knives and car are also not "incapable of killing" Does not mean they were designed for that.

This rifle was designed for Olympic target shooting, not to kill people for example:

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
13. Well, I didn't buy mine to tickle people
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:26 PM
Jan 2021

I'm aware that I might be the victim of a violent crime and that I may need to employ deadly force to protect myself and/or my family.

And since I'm fat, out-of-shape, and don't have martial arts skills, I'm really not interested in going at somebody either with my hands or a melee weapon.

Although I guess, technically, round is a shape.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
15. Exactly so. I'll freely grant that most of the guns I own were designed to kill people.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:33 AM
Jan 2021

In the admittedly unlikely event that I need to defend my life, I'm in exactly the same boat. At close to six decades old and in poor physical condition, I wouldn't stand a chance if attacked by a young man(or group of men) bent on doing me harm unless I have a firearm...at which ppoint I do have a chance.

Presuming I do find myself in such a situation, I see no reason to handicap myself by limiting myself to a "sporting" gun. Hence, while at home:



When not at home:

Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
4. The name of the groups is Gun Control and RKBA.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

I presume you overlooked tha latter. For that matter, the use of firearms for self defense is explicitlly mentioned in this group's Statement of Purpose.

rgbecker

(4,877 posts)
7. Was that an online Auction? Was the buyer local?
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jan 2021

How do you get the item to the buyer and do you check his background?

What auction site do you use?

I'm asking because I have a bunch of old guns I want to get rid of before someone gets hurt. Shotgun, 22 etc.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
14. Yes it was, and I have no idea who bought it.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:15 AM
Jan 2021

The auction either lets the buyer pick it up if he's a local, or mails it to a dealer in his area. In either case, a federal background check is conducted.

The site is Brand Used Works. Odd name, but they're excellent. They make periodic road trips and will make arrangements to pick ujp firearms you wish to consign (if there are enough people in your area who have contacted them). An excellent deal for the seller, they only charge 10% of whatever the gun sells for, and they do all the work.

It would be an good way to dispose of firearms you have no use for.

EX500rider

(11,491 posts)
19. Yeah happy to to see the price of the WWI/WWII bolt actions going up also..
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:46 PM
Apr 2021

...got my Mosin Nagant's and Turkish Mauser for around $99 awhile back and only $150 for my Finnish M-39 and under $200 for my Swiss Schmidt–Rubin K-31 and under $150 for my Cz-52 Czechoslovak pistol and all are in nice shape and goin UP in price.
The M-39 will probably end up being the best investment.

EX500rider

(11,491 posts)
21. : ) It is a straight shooter too..
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:37 PM
Apr 2021

I am no marksman but got a 3 inch grouping at 100y with open sights and vintage ammo with it. It's a 1943 SAKO.
Had my C&R license back in 2005 and bought a bunch of antique rifles for a fun investment.

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