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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,569 posts)
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 07:40 AM Jul 2022

School shooters and drugs

Just another right-wing lie.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter-Langman/publication/308220517_Psychiatric_Medications_and_School_Shootings/links/57dec49908aeea19593b4d96/Psychiatric-Medications-and-School-Shootings.pdf?origin=publication_detail
How many school shooters were on psychiatric medications — or coming off them — at the time of their attacks? The following data is drawn from the sample of 48 shooters profiled in my book School Shooters: Understanding High School, College, and Adult Perpetrators. Out of 24 secondary school shooters, only two were taking medication at the time of their attacks: Eric Harris and Jeffrey Weise. Alvaro Castillo might have been, or he may have stopped his medication within three weeks of his attack and thus still have been coming off the drug. If we include him, then 12.5% of the sample was taking medications. Put differently, over 87% of the secondary school shooters were not on psychiatric medications at the time of their attacks. Furthermore, there is no evidence that medication made Harris, Weise, or Castillo manic or psychotic.

The numbers are essentially the same for the college and adult shooters. Of the 24 in these two groups (13 college and 11 aberrant adult), two were taking psychiatric medications at the time of their attacks: Laurie Dann and Matti Saari. Because Steven Kazmierczak had only recently stopped taking his medication, perhaps he should be included, for a total of three shooters with at least some trace of medication in their bodies at the time of their attacks. Thus, 12.5% of the college and adult shooters were on medication at the time of their attacks. Again, there is no evidence that medication made them manic, agitated, or violent. Taken all together, only 6 out of 48 shooters (12.5%) were on medication at the time of their attacks. Even if we were to accept that psychiatric drugs caused these attacks, this still leaves over 87% of the incidents unaccounted for.
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School shooters and drugs (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 OP
perhaps they would have benefitted from diagnosis and treatment? rampartc Jul 2022 #1
My younger brother used to go for the more plain looking girls in school, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #2
i found some great jewels that way rampartc Jul 2022 #3
LOL, I promise not to. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #4
+1 rampartc Jul 2022 #5
Congratulations!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #6
No worries, it's good to hear. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #7

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
1. perhaps they would have benefitted from diagnosis and treatment?
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 07:52 AM
Jul 2022

though bullying seems, to me, to likely cause many of these events.

another might be the "incel" phenomenon. these jerks become despondent when the hot cheerleader turns them down. maybe if they did not have those expectations and learn to like girls who are more available all would be better off.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,313 posts)
2. My younger brother used to go for the more plain looking girls in school,
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jul 2022

he didn't even waste his time with the cheerleaders or the popular girls.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,313 posts)
4. LOL, I promise not to.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jul 2022

That's exactly how I found my wife, she wasn't in with the "popular girls", but she had a hell of alot more class and smarts than them, and the rest is history.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,313 posts)
6. Congratulations!!!!!
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jul 2022


I met my wife in '63, we were high school sweethearts, we married in '66, one week before my first tour in Vietnam.

Sadly, she passed away in 2018 from breast cancer, but those 55 years were phenomenal.

LOL, guess we kinda got off the subject of the thread.
My bad.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,569 posts)
7. No worries, it's good to hear.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 05:42 PM
Jul 2022

Slim Pickens as the Cowboy in The Getaway: "Ya know, if I's you kids what I'd do? I'd quit this runnin' around the country. Ya know, git a little bit a money together 'n, hell, buy a place 'n settle down 'n raise a family. I've been married for 35 years, same old gal; man she's a tough ol' hide. God dang, everything I am, I owe ta her."

Same story here.

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