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[GenXer47]

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[AndyS]

1. Hear hear!

Welcome to DU!

[Martin68]

2. Ironic, isn't it! An originalist textualist leaves out an entire clause in the text of the 2nd

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Amendment! Is that intellectual dishonesty, or just plain dishonesty?

[ManiacJoe]

3. The introductory clause is not a limiting clause.

Why? Because it is not phrased that way.
Modern laws are often written the same way, just leading with the word "whereas", with the same useless effect.
Had the authors intended the introductory clause to be a limiting clause, they would have phrased it that way.

[EX500rider]

4. Not to mention if it meant firearms for just militia members it wouldn't be in the Bill of Rights

Also since the writers of the 2nd knew what they meant all you have to ask is did they require militia membership after the amendment was passed?
No, they did not because it quite plainly says "the people", not "the militia".

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

5. It's absolutely awful that we have the violence that we have.

I include gun violence in that opinion. But I don't see how laws are going to be the key to solving the problem. Do you have any ideas on how to make progress?