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Tetrachloride

(8,447 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 04:56 PM Mar 2022

Keith Olbermann vs Rachel Maddow

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As some of us know, it is reported that Rachel Maddow “vetoed” the idea of Keith Olbermann as her successor in MSNBC broadcasts.

In the interests of transparency, I believe the public deserves more information on such media struggles.

I would like Rachel to speak directly on this subject.

1. I want to know the names of all the people who were vetoing Keith Olbermann

2. I wasn’t aware that Rachel was in the chain of command

Additional questions …. blah blah
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Keith Olbermann vs Rachel Maddow (Original Post) Tetrachloride Mar 2022 OP
Somebody trying to stir shit up? TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #1
I want to know. i am a fan of Keith Olbermann Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #2
My guess is the shit stirrer was Mr. Olbermann himself Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #15
Just thinking on this... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #3
Brainstorming is welcome. Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #4
I had a sense that something happened between them years ago when Olbermann left MSNBC hlthe2b Mar 2022 #5
I would like the details also. Someone made sure the deal didn't happen. brush Mar 2022 #6
She got her start on MSNBC by being his commentator Deuxcents Mar 2022 #7
Move O'Donnell to Rachel's spot and give Olbermann O'Donnell's spot. Sneederbunk Mar 2022 #8
I like it! Mme. Defarge Mar 2022 #14
media is wise to stay as far from olbermann as possible IMO nt msongs Mar 2022 #9
QFT.....he is talented as HELL..... democratsruletheday Mar 2022 #13
Keith wants drama, Rachel doesn't. MSNBC doesn't want Keith, he calls it mismanagement. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #10
Griffin is in charge of Maddow's production company. SergeStorms Mar 2022 #11
Why not give KO 11th Hour? Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #12
I rather have Keith. Just my opinion. LakeArenal Mar 2022 #16
Right on. Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #17
Totally agree. Stopped watching her when he was fired. Without Keith, there would not have LoisB Mar 2022 #18
Good point LakeArenal Mar 2022 #19
Olbermann's lengthy tweet about this. ificandream Apr 2022 #20
I'll watch Keith no matter what channel/platform Tetrachloride Apr 2022 #21

Fiendish Thingy

(18,508 posts)
15. My guess is the shit stirrer was Mr. Olbermann himself
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 06:50 PM
Mar 2022

There is no evidence, aside from this leaked (probably planted) clickbait report, that MSNBC was considering Olbermann to replace Rachel.

Olbermann is now a fringe figure, and couldn’t draw a tenth of Rachel’s ratings, but this story certainly got his name back in the headlines for a little while.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,668 posts)
3. Just thinking on this...
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:01 PM
Mar 2022

Without any insight into what actually transpired, I can envision MSNBC heads using Olbermann to force Maddow to give up some of her contract demands. Leverage. It's the byword of power. And corporate media is all about power.

hlthe2b

(106,332 posts)
5. I had a sense that something happened between them years ago when Olbermann left MSNBC
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:04 PM
Mar 2022

While Rachel was going to succeed--no matter what-- it was KO that really gave her the television breaks initially to give her exposure beyond radio at AAR. He supposedly expressed some general comments about colleagues who had not supported him when he left MSNBC unceremoniously, but it wasn't clear that meant Rachel or any other person specifically.

Given her success, Rachel is clearly wielding her power now. I can't help but speculate about it, but it seems that much is behind the scenes on these issues. So I doubt we will get full details, albeit certain to have some rumors break.

Disappointing, for sure.

brush

(57,471 posts)
6. I would like the details also. Someone made sure the deal didn't happen.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:05 PM
Mar 2022

Keith has been successful before at it and would be good at digging into republican dirty tricks and vote suppression during upcoming mid-terms.

democratsruletheday

(1,226 posts)
13. QFT.....he is talented as HELL.....
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:50 PM
Mar 2022

but a colossal pain in the arse. We rip on Trump for being a narcissistic tool but Keith is a little guilty of it too. I love his politics but he's never really known how to read the room and shut his YAPPER when he should. He's his own worst enemy. Rachel knows that.

FreepFryer

(7,086 posts)
10. Keith wants drama, Rachel doesn't. MSNBC doesn't want Keith, he calls it mismanagement.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:18 PM
Mar 2022

Sounds Trumpian to me

SergeStorms

(19,312 posts)
11. Griffin is in charge of Maddow's production company.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:24 PM
Mar 2022

Griffin and Olbermann have had a long-lasting feud dating back 15 years or so. Griffin hates Olbermann. It was more his decision that Maddow's, but Rachel relented because he's now in charge of her future.

Griffin: Former MSNBC chief.

LakeArenal

(29,797 posts)
16. I rather have Keith. Just my opinion.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 06:51 PM
Mar 2022

Takes Rachel for…ever…to…get…to…the…point.
Stay tuned til after our break….

LoisB

(8,643 posts)
18. Totally agree. Stopped watching her when he was fired. Without Keith, there would not have
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:18 PM
Mar 2022

been a Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.

Tetrachloride

(8,447 posts)
21. I'll watch Keith no matter what channel/platform
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:50 PM
Apr 2022

YouTube
Disney World
University of Northern North Dakota
Tennessee chicken farm
Panama Canal

That is to say, go around the powers that be

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