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Related: About this forumVeterans Day get together as a 11B I wasnt smart enough to be a 11C or a 11H
Yesterday we had a cookout ,and we had several relatives and friends and families show up. And looking around at the fine company that was hanging out yesterday. I noticed a common thread amongst us. Well besides the obvious of our love of beer. The thread was that the majority of the guest who served were either graduates of fort benning army infantry and strangely we all attended airborne school . Or fort sill army arty red legs. Or Parris island 0311 infantry and one anglico marine who also attended airborne school at benning.
And the abuse started from my army friends. Who in some bizzare world as one was a11C mortars and the other was 11H anti tank. in humor they look down on 11 B infantry. Once again I had to go into the first day of infantry training at osut A/10/2 at Benning. I was 11x unassigned infantry and the first day of infantry school I was humping mortar baseplate and tubes across this field running with them. And clearly I had a moment where I approached the Drill sgt and asked if I could be a 11B. The Drill asked me why and I answered 11c is an asshole mos Drill sgt. he roared with laughter dropped me for 100 push-ups and after I recovered he said ok you are now 11B.
The Polack MSgt
(13,455 posts)And ya know, if only you had stayed awake in math... You could've joined the Air Force
Hope you and your's are well.
Peace
TEB
(13,795 posts)I actually had decent asvab score and I just wanted to be airborne infantry. And dont even get me started on the air force you S.O.B.s never provided inflight movies in hauling are asses to the DZ. hey joking but tell Allan I voted a straight dem ticket as usual last Tuesday.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)I knew I'd screwed up the first time I ate at an AF chow hall.
Aristus
(68,617 posts)And we dump on the infantry a lot. But the truth is, I respect the infantry very much.
I used to work with a M1 driver and Id joke. Tankers never had shoe laces cuz they couldnt tie them.
Aristus
(68,617 posts)they would just call us 'computerized dumb-ass tankers'.
TEB
(13,795 posts)Is it leapoards the west Germans had. I remember in over watch on reforger this tank on black ice barrel tore into a house. Dont know I heard black ice I saw it after the fact thru binoculars. You could see their toilet as clear as day where the wall was missing.
Aristus
(68,617 posts)We never did any joint exercises with the Germans.
I participated in a CPX with the French, and got to become familiar with the AMX-10 APC. But that was it.
TEB
(13,795 posts)Off one night and of course the C.O wants a patrol. And the LT we had at the time was cool as hell and our platoon caught it. And really instead of sending out a squad LT ask for volunteers. So I had to go because I was playing RTO. WELL were walking past this farm. And we start talking to this farmer who was telling us he served in Russia now it is me the LT AND E5 and two dudes humping a m60. Well the farmer offered us to warm up LT said to the E5 and the 60 crew go ahead and him and I went to observe the valley. He was one cool officer.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)Called us "crunchies"
Aristus
(68,617 posts)DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)That's a bad ass tank. That prob would have been my second choice.
Did they make y'all clean the barrels like we had to do our weapons? I've always wondered if they used a big bore brush
Aristus
(68,617 posts)We used a long, collapsible ramrod and several detachable tools that screwed on to the end. First, there was a round wire-brush that we coated with break-free and scrubbed the tube with it. Then we switched out the brush for a bell-shaped rammer, wrapped a rag around it and then swabbed all the gunk out of the tube with it. As with cleaning a rifle, we kept ramming rags through until they came out clean.
It took pretty-much the whole crew to clean the gun tube. Two or three guys road-ganging the rammer from outside the tank, and a guy inside to grab the cloth as it came through, and toss it back out to the crew to ram again.
Fortunately, we didn't have to do this too often; just during live-fire exercises. For field exercises, we kept the gun-tube covered with a rubber stopper to keep out dust and moisture.
The life of a tanker...
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)That's exactly what I figured. You know if it's the Army they go overboard on cleaning anything.
We used caps and I despised using blanks. Cause of the mess it made
Aristus
(68,617 posts)The M1A1 120mm smoothbore gun used ammunition with a disintegrating cartridge that burned up in the gun tube after the round was fired. This left only a small metal stub, instead of a large brass casing that cluttered up the turret floor.
If the gun tube was not properly cleaned, the casing would dissolve only incompletely, and flaming casing material could spew back into the turret on recoil when the gun breech dropped. This was called a 'flare-back'. It was so dangerous that, even if none of the crew were hurt, it would bring the entire live-fire exercise to a grinding halt, sometimes even for an entire day while the matter was investigated.
TEB
(13,795 posts)Well I forgot to add that when LT and me come back thru the village to get our people. The E5 and the 60 crew they were blasted drunk drinking with this farmer. LT was ok on it you know but no quiet on the way into the lines with three drunk tread heads. Laughing and stumbling so they went to the 113 to sleep. Im radioing the ambush hey its us and the drunks screaming dont shoot.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)It's nice when you get an LT that knows when his guys are a great team but isn't a hard ass all the time.
TEB
(13,795 posts)Problem was the CO was sharp and he likes to talk. To everyone who was on patrol even a E1 because he believed in getting all intel. I mean captain was smart decent and he would take all details from all of the men. But that morning LT goes sir I sent sgt and 60 crew to rack out their exhausted. Well C.o was Lt we all our tired and he asked me how you holding up corporal and Im like well waiting get debrief over with so I can catch some zs sir. Glad he never sent for the three drunks. Cool thing was the old man always had coffee brewing in command track.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)I've found that hanging around other vets is better for me.
Several times a year my Army buddy's will come over. My daughter said she'd never seen my laugh so much.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)The colonel that interviewed me for the army said he could only tell me two things. It was a desk job and I could not go to a country where there was a military conflict plus other considerations. He was a man of his word. He did tell me that it was four years not three years active duty. Army May 31, 1963-May 29, 1967.
TEB
(13,795 posts)And scored quite well on asvab. but I just was kid and wanted to be airborne infantry. Go big or go home to see if I could do it. I remember the recruiter saying well you could go into computer or missle repair. Nope I wanna do this there is a huge misconception that people in infantry are bottom barrel in intelligence. Not true I meant some very interesting and intellectual people in my rifle platoons. And I was never that hardcore but I made it gave em 3 years.