Seniors
Related: About this forum"After you, young man." Said to me upon leaving the elevator. Yeah, I'm 79 and
I know I look like shit, compared to what I looked like when I was 20 or whenever. Fact: Last week I came across a photo of me when I was about 3. I was a cute little dickens then but so what?
"After you, young man," after deferring to me to leave the elevator.... condescending, patronizing and rude.. He was probably in his 50's...polite and I'm sure meant to be polite. Behind it is the negative interpretation, meaning he feels his age and his body is better than my age and my body and I shouldn't feel bad about being old and looking old and to himself, "He looks like shit, poor old fuck." Or maybe he thinks I feel bad because I am not 50 and maybe I would want to be like him. I don't want to be like him.. I enjoy my life as it is and hope it stays like this for the next 25 years.
In a sense, Young man or young lady...it's a joke but with an edge.... Ha, ha, I know you look like shit and I'm addressing you as if you don't. Now don't I seem like a nice guy?
Hell. Would you address and overweight person, "After you, slim."? Or a mentally challenged person, "Here, let me help you, Einstein."?
I'm proud of having reached my age and looking forward to being 80 in October. Given my family background, I have another 25 years to go and if I don't, so what?
Then this bring me to my cardiologist..... same thing. Enters the exam room every six months, , "How are you, young man?" Thing is, he is in his 60's and looks more like shit than I do.....nearly bald and what's left is grey.
I look forward to June, when I see him again.
dchill
(40,469 posts)Ah, screw it. What are we - knights of the Round Table?
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)nuxvomica
(12,877 posts)By the same logic, that should be seen as a compliment.
elleng
(136,043 posts)at all.
And I'm 79 also. I'm occasionally addressed as "young lady" and take it in the spirit in which was offered.
elleng
(136,043 posts)like @ grocery store parking lot! Ma'am!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)negative.
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)Whatever you focus your attention on, you strengthen.
And sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
marybourg
(13,181 posts)I like that. Im going to try to remember that to respond with when I hear the all too frequent kind of negativity that surrounds us lately.
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)But I don't like "80 years young" at birthday.
80 ain't young.
Period.
I'm an old man and I know it and feel it.
"You're only as old as you feel."
BULLSHIT
I feel 80.
Piss off.
Enter stage left
(3,823 posts)and afterwards we went to my place and...she is "Really good!"
Doodley
(10,371 posts)I have better things to occupy my mind.
orleans
(34,947 posts)they say it either with a happy tone and expression or a politeness. their tone isn't dripping with sarcasm when they speak those words -- and if it was i'd probably say "fuck you."
i hate the word ma'am.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)DFW
(56,520 posts)Here in Germany, people often address men they dont know that way, no matter what their age. Its just a way of finding a middle ground between stiff formality and impolite informality. Ive addressed that way by Germans for 45 years. Here, it doesnt raise an eyebrow no matter how old you are.
lillypaddle
(9,605 posts)being called "young lady" irritates the shit outta me. Patronizing is a good word.
KarenS
(4,632 posts)not sure which I find worse,,,, The 'young' part or the 'lady' part,,,,
lillypaddle
(9,605 posts)Lydiarose
(68 posts)At my first job as a financial analyst in a big corporation after getting my MBA, my boss called another department to tell them he was sending over a "young lady" to pick up some paperwork. It really took me aback. I looked at all the other financial analysts, mostly male, and wondered if he would have said "I'm sending over a young lad to pick some paperwork." No, he'd have said, "I'm sending over a man." He knew "girl" was offensive but couldn't bring himself to call me a woman because I was in my 20's. Why it was necessary to identify my gender, I don't know. He could have just said I'm sending over an analyst, but maybe he felt it would be confusing on the other end when a female arrived instead of an expected male? It really bothered me, but I didn't challenge it; he was a nice guy. But I puzzled over it for some time. Now, of course, it really puzzles me but not from the gender perspective but rather the age contradiction. As the other poster said, it now feels patronizing and condescending.
3Hotdogs
(13,394 posts)as Papa or Mama, They are also usually older.
That one doesn't bother me.
Lydiarose
(68 posts)Mami or Papi
Midnight Writer
(22,971 posts)A guy saw this and said "That was some impressive run, young man!"
I bet I heard this story from him a hundred times, him beaming every time about how he was so athletic he was mistaken for a young man.
Lydiarose
(68 posts)I also find this comment very puzzling. I just don't get it. I don't think it's meant to be mean, or even to be funny. Maybe clever? But how? I just don't get the motivation for describing someone in a way that is the exact opposite of what they are. I get your two analogies (obesity and mentally challenged) and yet they don't quite hit the same tone; they seem derogatory. Whereas "young man" or "young lady" just makes no sense. And it seems to be said mostly by people just a bit younger, like a generation younger. I've never been called that by someone truly young like 20's - 40's. Seems to start late 50's to 60's. Maybe that was a thing for their generation. Maybe denial that they're nearing our age? JUST DON'T GET IT!