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Sun Feb 13, 2022, 04:47 PM Feb 2022

People Over 80 Are Still Taking Care of Their Parents and Partners

The U.S. population is aging, and so are caregivers.

Bob Tiller, an 80-year-old retired lobbyist for nonprofits, manages care for his 101-year-old mother. Both live in continuing care communities, he in Silver Spring, Md., and she in western Pennsylvania. If there is an emergency, Mr. Tiller gets the phone call and makes the five-hour drive. “I’m the one who is officially responsible, the one who has to make sure her income taxes are filed, and needs to be available in the middle of the night if there’s a health crisis,” says Mr. Tiller.

The increasing number of caregivers 65 and older is adding a layer of fragility to the nation’s already strained family caregiving system, long the backbone of long-term care. Having a loved one around in old age is a blessing for many, and caring for a loved one provides a sense of purpose. But the duties are upending what many had expected from their retirement years. An estimated 19% of the nation’s 53 million unpaid family caregivers are 65 and older, up from 13% in 2004. Caregivers in advanced age—75 and older—now represent 7% of caregivers, according to the 2020 Caregiving in the U.S. report by the National Alliance for Caregiving and AARP.

Older caregivers are likely to be dealing with their own health needs. They might not be in the “sandwich” stage of life, juggling a job and teenagers, but may have arthritis and a bad hip, live on fixed income and live 500 miles away from the person whose care they are responsible for. Older caregivers can benefit from the feeling of well-being in caring for others, but the physical demands of tasks, such as helping an even older loved one get out of chairs or into beds, also take a toll. Constant worry and lack of sleep can add up, too.

Maryjo Cleveland says when she started geriatrics in the early 1990s, her 75-year-old patients were being cared for by their 50-year-old daughters. “Now the 70-year-old daughter is caring for the 95-year-old mother,” says Dr. Cleveland, who also teaches at the Wake Forest School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, N.C.

Advanced-age caregivers also include relatively healthy centenarians looking after their spouses. Up until a few years ago, Elijah Gardner, 100, bathed his wife, Minnie Gardner, 94, who is in later stages of Alzheimer’s. “I gave her a complete shower until I couldn’t do it anymore because I was getting a little dizzy,” says Mr. Gardner... In August, the Gardners moved to the assisted-living community the Arbors Valencia, which is part of St. Barnabas Health System. The elder Mr. Gardner wishes he could have stayed in the family home, but accepts it was time to leave for his wife’s sake. “If anything happens to me, what would happen to her?” he asks.

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People Over 80 Are Still Taking Care of Their Parents and Partners (Original Post) question everything Feb 2022 OP
K&R sheshe2 Feb 2022 #1
K&R Diamond_Dog Feb 2022 #2
Experiencing this now. cilla4progress Feb 2022 #3
They don't notice you until you're sick or drop dead bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #4
My childhood buddy who is 73 is taking care of his 94 yo mother.. Lots of work mitch96 Feb 2022 #5
This is a sad commentary on how little this country gives a damn about niyad Feb 2022 #6
++ There's a bit about poor US childcare covered but nix appalachiablue Feb 2022 #12
Aging is a natural part of living. Not all of us do it gracefully. BarbD Feb 2022 #7
The cost of caring for the aged, the disabled, the dying - that's what is shocking FakeNoose Feb 2022 #8
Agree one thousand times over FN DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #10
++ You got it, very ugly. appalachiablue Feb 2022 #13
So true and there is very little said about this. Memory care can be over 15k a month Peregrine Took Feb 2022 #14
That's me. Tommymac Feb 2022 #9
Very sweet. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #16
response already looooong overdue bringthePaine Feb 2022 #11
Wow! Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #15
The Gardners look so sweet JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #17
I'm a 68-year-old, taking care of my 98-year-old mother. Staph Feb 2022 #18
I'm the elder (parent) responsible for care of 60-yr. old daughter in a long-term care facility. No Vested Interest Feb 2022 #19

mitch96

(14,652 posts)
5. My childhood buddy who is 73 is taking care of his 94 yo mother.. Lots of work
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:33 PM
Feb 2022

She has MS and dementia... Lucky he has a care giver that comes in 3x/week to help out. He gets one week off per year that costs him a bundle. The care giver stays in the house for a week day and nite so he pays for the 24 hour care..
Growing up his mom was non stop energizer bunny. She still is!! She just zips around the house in her wheelchair.
He is the oldest of 5 and the other 4 really don't give a shit. It's a shame they wont give him a hand.
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niyad

(119,893 posts)
6. This is a sad commentary on how little this country gives a damn about
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:16 PM
Feb 2022

our health and well-being, at any age.

appalachiablue

(42,906 posts)
12. ++ There's a bit about poor US childcare covered but nix
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:01 PM
Feb 2022

for strained eldercare and family care in general. As the youngest child I know the appalling story. Bosses wouldn't let me off work for a dying sibling, then father. This and more, the miserable state of the wealthiest nation.

BarbD

(1,221 posts)
7. Aging is a natural part of living. Not all of us do it gracefully.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:26 PM
Feb 2022

As a society, we simply haver never known how to manage our old people.

FakeNoose

(35,664 posts)
8. The cost of caring for the aged, the disabled, the dying - that's what is shocking
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:27 PM
Feb 2022

We are doing it voluntarily for our loved ones because we can't afford to pay others to do it. More and more, the US insurance companies are abandoning Americans into poverty and dependence on others. God help those who have no family, they're out on the street with no fucks given.

This is scary shit, ladies and gentlemen, and it's getting worse every day.

DENVERPOPS

(9,951 posts)
10. Agree one thousand times over FN
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:39 PM
Feb 2022

I see it all the time. Peoples savings, retirement funds, homes, all being drained like never before, throwing the hardship onto their kids that have a VERY uncertain future and scraping to get by themselves.........The average citizens aren't making more money, especially with the cost of living an inflation skyrocketing.

The worst part is the Republicans framing it as BIDEN & DEMS FAULT, when it is totally outrageous profiteering by all the Corporations.

WASF

Peregrine Took

(7,502 posts)
14. So true and there is very little said about this. Memory care can be over 15k a month
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:13 PM
Feb 2022

That's what my brother was paying 5 years ago when he died.

Now his wife is in the same program.Yes, its expensive but its not a super fancy place - just one of many in a middle to upper middle class suburb (Glenview, il.)

There are more expensive places in other suburbs.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
9. That's me.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:30 PM
Feb 2022

Happily taking care of my 85 year old mum in law.

Of coarse my better half is a youngun, weighing in at only 58.

Staph

(6,345 posts)
18. I'm a 68-year-old, taking care of my 98-year-old mother.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:38 PM
Feb 2022

Luckily, she's sharp as a tack, and in reasonable physical health, only needing a walker to maintain her balance.

And she and I are lucky financially as well. She and my dad had a couple of good pensions and decent investments, and they set the good example for me. We don't have to pinch pennies and we can take the occasional vacation when we want. We both have good health insurance and enough money to cover deductibles.

But I also know that we're the exception, not the rule. Too many senior Americans are trying to take care of Mom or Dad, while working full-time just to pay the bills. I am blessed.


No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
19. I'm the elder (parent) responsible for care of 60-yr. old daughter in a long-term care facility.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:03 AM
Feb 2022

I'm still in my one-floor home, and just doing the activities of daily living for myself is getting more and more difficult.
I'm always feeling that I'm behind on chores, and indeed I am.
Even making the appointments necessary for daughter and trying to keep everything right and in control for daughter is getting to be more than I can manage.
Her two local siblings pitch in to a degree, and her sister, who is an opposite in disposition, will have to take over when I no longer can.
That will be very hard for the needy daughter, who has psychological problems as well as asphasia, a paralyzed arm, diabetes and kidney disease.

No ready answers. I do have some housekeeping help, and a woman who takes daughter to doctor's appointments, as I'm no longer up to picking her up, driving to medical center, getting daughter inside and then the reverse in return.
I'm grateful I can still do this much. Many my age cannot.

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