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freemay20

(243 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 07:44 PM Aug 2013

Questions about senior citizens and assisted living.

My mother-in-law resides in Alabama. She has been told that if she were to have to go to assisted living, the State would seize all of her assets and use them to pay the expenses incurred at the facility. She is wondering if she needs to disperse her assets prior to that happening. I have no clue how things work in Alabama and would greatly appreciate any insight any of you could give me. She is scared to death that she will lose her assets to the State if she does not do something prior to that time coming (that is if she ever has to go to a facility). I let her know we would take care of her and she always has a place, but we all know how some people feel about their independence and kudos to them for that.

I look forward to the responses and thank everyone in advance.

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Questions about senior citizens and assisted living. (Original Post) freemay20 Aug 2013 OP
Does she have a living spouse? DURHAM D Aug 2013 #1
NO freemay20 Aug 2013 #2
Here is info from January 2013 regarding qualifying for Medicaid in Alabama. DURHAM D Aug 2013 #3
Assisted living does not usually qualify for Medicaid, though I understand No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #4
Medicare dosn't pay for assisted living. One must meet the asset limits to sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #5
Thank you for your correction to my post. No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #6

DURHAM D

(32,835 posts)
1. Does she have a living spouse?
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:14 PM
Aug 2013

The five year look back mentioned in the other thread is a federal rule so it applies in Alabama.

Here is the first thing that came up when I googled Seniors to qualify for Medicaid - http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/07/29/medicaid-madness-look-back-period-creates-financial-hardship-f/

The article is three years old but the best takeaway from it is to use an attorney who specializes in elder law. I know too many seniors who thought they had planned well but used a family friend for their will or trust and ended up with giant problems.

DURHAM D

(32,835 posts)
3. Here is info from January 2013 regarding qualifying for Medicaid in Alabama.
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:33 PM
Aug 2013
http://medicaid.alabama.gov/documents/3.0_Apply/3.2_Qualifying_Medicaid/3.2_Medicaid_Elderly_Disabled_2013_1-14-13.pdf

I would suggest you find out approximately what her total assets are plus her monthly income and sources and then call the 1-800 number listed there if you have questions. Good luck.

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
4. Assisted living does not usually qualify for Medicaid, though I understand
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:08 AM
Aug 2013

that in the last several years there have been some exceptions to that policy.
What exactly the exceptions are I do not know.
Usually only nursing care qualifies for Medicaid.

I myself see nothing wrong in the State requiring financial assets be used to pay for assisted living, since otherwise one would be taking from other citizens to pay for one's own keep. If one stays in one's own home, they would be using their own assets.

Having said that, one can protect oneself by paying in advance for funeral and burial, and by designating certain possessions as the property of those you would wish to have them.

Mother-in-law would be wise to stay with family as long as possible, though in some cases that can become impossible with certain debilities and conditions. And, yes, professional counsel on these affairs is a good idea, though I would not trust some attorneys who specialize in getting around regulations, because they may put the elder person in a worse situation than they might have been in without the professional help.

My sister was in a nursing facility in NC the last years of her life, under Medicaid.
She was allowed to retain $30/month from her Social Security; the facility took the rest for payment. The $30 has now been increased to $40/month, I understand. That is to cover all personal expenses such as toiletries, hairdo and cuts, clothing, etc. My brother and I supplemented her funds with amounts sent to her daughter, who provided my sister with a phone and other items.

My mother was in assisted living the last nine years of her life. Her own assets were used to pay for her expenses. When she died, her assets were enough to pay for just six more months at the facility, but hse had the dignity of paying her own way and having her own room/privacy during her last years.

I personally find the Medicaid choice repugnant in that one is usually living the rest of one's life in a room with a stranger. So when lawyers speak of helping you qualify for a Medicaid facility in your old age, be aware of the down side of Medicaid living in a facility. Of course, for many, it is the only option, but given a choice, it seems to me to be better to remain with family or pay one's own way as long as possible.

sinkingfeeling

(52,989 posts)
5. Medicare dosn't pay for assisted living. One must meet the asset limits to
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:37 AM
Aug 2013

qualify for Medicaid, which does indeed pay for assisted living.

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
6. Thank you for your correction to my post.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:19 PM
Aug 2013

I am not a professional in this area.
Just some experiences and input from professionals, which I may have gotten wrong in places.

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