Divide between older Blacks and Black Millennials for Hillary

[UMTerp01]

The threat to Trump is so great that you have most Black activists coming around, Deray McKesson probably being the most notable in recent days, but make no mistake, many Black millennials are not enthusiastic about this election. However, I don't know a single Black person over 35 who isn't voting for Hillary.

I spoke with a few who outright said I can't believe this is our f**king choice but its got to be Hillary . Millennial Blacks don't remember these "great Clinton years" and find a lack of authenticity with her. I personally am not looking for a late night host for a President. Obama has that rare gift of having such charm and humor and seriousness, but make no doubt that its the intelligence that made me vote for him. The personality is a great bonus, but its just that... a bonus.

Also important to note that Black millennials vote in greater numbers than their white counterparts which is why its key to get them to vote early and on election day, particularly in the battleground states. I know some don't like to do "identity politics" but when I see talk of millennial voters voting third party and some going Trump I wish they would break that down more. Make no mistake...Black millennials are NOT voting for Donald Trump.

[FrenchieCat]

1. They will be the ones Stopped and Frisked

If Trump becomes President!!

The Supreme Court will impact many of their lives… So I …

hope they get that they just ain't got it like that, so they better vote… And not rely on everyone else saving their arses!

[Gman]

2. Go figure.

[Wilms]

3. You tell 'em, Frenchie!

It's always best to talk down to people.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Is that talking down....

or is it talking truth? I raised a couple of Black millenials and know quite a few of them in fact.....and fortunately, they get that they don't have it like that! Sorry if reminding folks of this appears "talking down" in YOUR view!

[Wilms]

6. It was that "rely on everyone else" bit.

[FrenchieCat]

9. Let's be clear

If some Black millennials believe that they have the privilege of sitting out elections or voting third-party, A lot of it has to do with them believing that most likely they'll be OK in the aftermath… Meaning others saving their arses while they walk around being righteous!

The point is if they do not see what it took to gain the black vote, it really does mean that they think they've got it like that. And I'm here to say… No, you really don't.

I call them as I see 'em... maybe some my see it as Tough love, and that's OK too.

My Black daughter, now 29, was one organizing on the streets of St. Louis In the immediate aftermath of the Ferguson shooting. She absolutely understands that she doesn't have it like that, nor did her parents, nor did their parents. She's not into self-destruction in order to make a point that no one will hear in any aftermath! If that's talking down, so be it!

[Wilms]

10. I don't agree with your first paragraph.

I think it's insulting to a lot of earnest people.

Sure. There are going to be the ones that fit the caricature. But it's no way to have a conversation.

Meanwhile, if they're not in a hotly contested race, there's even less of a reason to speak in an alienating way.

[FrenchieCat]

11. There are many Young Black folks

In the hotly contested states of Ohio and NC! If we end up losing the states, as Michelle Obama reminded us all today, and it's by razor thin margins, and it's found out that part of the reason of the loss, is because too many of them didn't show up… Am I supposed to wait till after the no-do-over election to speak my mind? This election will shape the supreme Court for the next minimum 25 years....and I don't wish that on my grandchildren or anyone else's! So I'm not holding back my words thinking I might hurt somebody's feelings, considering the damage that they may inflict. I'm going to stick to that truth, because at least my truth it's not gonna hurt millions of other people....as my truth are just my words, not my actions.

If they're offended by what I said, they should think about how offended they'll be when affirmative-action is gone, when hopes of any social justice reform is dead, when voting rights are no longer available to them whether they want them or not, and when President Obama's presidency is erased from the history books just like in the days after reconstruction! If someone is Black and doesn't get that, oh well!

My family's set regardless… So this is not about me or my immediate mine.... it's actually about them.

[JustAnotherGen]

12. I can't see the insult

It's the truth.

In the non DU world both online and more important - face to face . . . I've encountered snotty ass wipes who try to goad me with : what have THEY done for the blacks/you?

Anger and self righteous assert running it's course in Barnes and Noble.

They no "likely" when I pop back with -

I thought we were all supposed to be self sufficient?

You notice how all of a sudden the same racists who rail on and on about losing something to "the blacks" all of a sudden are so concerned? Like I'm supposed to believe them?

They will laugh as I'm being lead to the prison camp.

Don't be fooled by them.


They are just out for themselves and think it's funny when we get shot with a bag of skittle and an iced tea on our person.

[Wilms]

14. Did I miss something?

I thought we were discussing millennials, not racists.

[JustAnotherGen]

15. African American Group - it's all fair game

You tried to 'school' Frenchie Cat on how she was speaking down to young black Americans.

She did not.

The reality is - America's TRUE face has been shown this election . . . of course black folks? We've known this all along. It's always been there just in pretty little language.

We need to repeat again and again to our young - this man is dangerous and even more dangerous - are his supporters.

You simply can't talk about Trump or his supporters without pointing out that they are hateful little racists.

If we are talking Trump - we are talking about Racists. If we are talking about black Millenials - we need to point out to those young folks what they are dealing with - and will deal with it -

If this country goes full blown Amerikkka (<- A heaven05 thing) in November.

[Wilms]

16. Seems like you and Frenchie are doing the schooling.

No one here is underestimating the danger of a Trump presidency.

I have merely pointed out that shaming Millennials is not a good idea. Calling them "self-righteous"? That's going to motivate them to "do as they are told"?

You lost.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. I'd like to extend that 'self righteous'

To ALL the quitters that say:
My vote doesn't count.


Funny - my nephews (early 20's, African American) say the same thing about their peers. I've also noticed one of my cousin's sons - 25 year old entrepreneur - is saying the same thing. . . . to their peers.


Looks like you got lost on your way to telling us black folks how to talk to the members of our own family - who in my case . . .

Young black millenials - I'm just parroting!

[Wilms]

18. And the peers of them do what in response?

Run out get bumper stickers and vote as they are told?

I didn't tell anyone (be they self righteous or otherwise) how to speak to their family members. You and Frenchie are.

[JI7]

7. young people never vote as much as older age groups

[kwassa]

8. The choice is pretty stark. The threat is great.

I have voted in every election as soon as I was eligible to vote. Often times I was not enthused with the Democratic candidate, but I knew what was at stake.

I think I've missed one mid-term election, never a presidential race.

This is the scariest election I have seen in my life. Never has it been more important.

[JustAnotherGen]

13. You tell the truth

Adding - true faces have been shown.

[forjusticethunders]

19. I'm a black millennial and i am terrified

not as terrified as I would be if the race was really close, but terrified nonetheless. Not just for me (and I've had a close encounter with the business end of an officer's automatic weapon so that fear is definitely visceral for me) but for my partner who is a trans Mexican Latina, and there's no need to explain the threat Trumpmerica presents to her.

At the same time I do have some misgivings about Hillary (she's not nearly as left as I want her to be, but no politician, not even Bernie is) but that really doesn't matter. I also do remember the tail end of the Bill years, being on the older side of the Millennial generation at 27 and a half. My political education really started that November night in 2000 though.