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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:35 PM Nov 2016

Maybe I'm being overly cynical and unfair, but why are so many white people are only now waking up?

Since black people and others who don't fit the normative "white" ideal of American society have been dealing with the likes of Donald Trump and the "Alt-Right" since...well, honestly ever since the ancestors of black Americans were brought here against their will through unspeakable coercion and violence.

And even then, a majority of white voters are voting for Trump. Just like they have been voting for Republicans in record numbers ever since Barack Obama was nominated and then elected as President.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that more of white America is seeing the light, so to speak. But still, I can't help but worry that it might be "too little, "too late."

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Maybe I'm being overly cynical and unfair, but why are so many white people are only now waking up? (Original Post) YoungDemCA Nov 2016 OP
They've been voting Publican marybourg Nov 2016 #1
Many people don't get it until it's their neck. SusanCalvin Nov 2016 #2
A broad education helps develop empathy- we've dumbed down the nation ... bettyellen Nov 2016 #3
Yep. SusanCalvin Nov 2016 #16
1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #22
FOX NEWS! SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2016 #4
I agree Lindalouuu Nov 2016 #9
We might have averted Trump and dragging our reputation through the mud. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2016 #21
My theory as to why now. safeinOhio Nov 2016 #6
Your note sums up the Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #8
I also read that book 50 years ago Ellen Forradalom Nov 2016 #10
My teacher in jr. high assigned the class the book. safeinOhio Nov 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #7
Waking up? jamese777 Nov 2016 #11
True. And sad. Hopefully they're dying off. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2016 #18
Younger generation was raised by college hippy parents Alice11111 Nov 2016 #12
Well, I'm amazed that anyone at this late date The Polack MSgt Nov 2016 #20
Cell phone footage of police oppression, ZombieHorde Nov 2016 #23
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marybourg

(13,181 posts)
1. They've been voting Publican
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:39 PM
Nov 2016

in record numbers since Lyndon Johnson's Voting Rights Act and other Civil Rights legislation back in the '60's.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
16. Yep.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:25 PM
Nov 2016

I thank Highlights and Scholastic Books for helping me not become a racist like my dad. (And he bought them for me and then was puzzled by the result!)

Edited to add: Apparently I was supposed to become smart but still remain a racist.... ;->

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,671 posts)
4. FOX NEWS!
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 02:00 PM
Nov 2016

Add right wing radio and internet sites that have stoked racism since 2009 and upped it in 2012. Once Romney lost, they gave up any idea of changing their platform and furthered voter registration restrictions from the SCOTUS to state's atty's general.

Add rising gun violence and targeting blacks by PD, it is then regurgitated on the FNC and right wing radio and internet sites.

Repeat. Et voila. Civil War.

Lindalouuu

(91 posts)
9. I agree
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 02:34 PM
Nov 2016

Faux news and right wing radio have done more to divide this country than any other thing. IMHO. Then of course along comes their orange poster boy and here we are....the country could be ruined or we could be sane and pick Hillary.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,671 posts)
21. We might have averted Trump and dragging our reputation through the mud.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:50 PM
Nov 2016

Had Ailes' sexual intimidation and assaults been exposed 10 years ago, we might never have had the anti-Obama at all costs strategy. They literally wanted to ruin our economy rather than work with Obama.

They're traitors and don't care about America.

safeinOhio

(34,075 posts)
6. My theory as to why now.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 02:09 PM
Nov 2016

A lot lot of really close minded, older White folks now have grand kids that were born with a nice golden tan. Seems the more racist they were, the more likely that will happen.
50 some years ago I read a book that shaped my thinking forever, Black Like Me. Should be required reading.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Your note sums up the
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 02:28 PM
Nov 2016

true nature of our Country. Have a closed minded Relative that has come to grips with reality. When his only son told him that his new partner in life was a guy,well that changed his being once and for all. The Racial crap stopped and he now avoids most social issues until he comes to grip with his demons..

Ellen Forradalom

(16,178 posts)
10. I also read that book 50 years ago
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
Nov 2016

And got called some choice names by my classmates for my taste in reading material.

The police shootings and protests have made it impossible for us to avert our eyes.

I would also credit the rise of blogs, forum posts and other alternative publications that permit a white person to read up on POC's view of events as they happen. I credit such sources, including this forum, with helping my understanding evolve. It is so very easy to remain in the white bubble.

safeinOhio

(34,075 posts)
17. My teacher in jr. high assigned the class the book.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:27 PM
Nov 2016

I have been lucky enough to live and work with many different cultures in my life. Also, my minor in college was Cultural Anthropology.

Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

jamese777

(546 posts)
11. Waking up?
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 03:01 PM
Nov 2016

Where is the evidence that "so many" white people are "waking up?" Trump stands a good chance of exceeding McCain's (55%) and Romney's (59%) white voter totals.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
12. Younger generation was raised by college hippy parents
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 03:22 PM
Nov 2016

I, and all my friends, taught and lived our values, that racism, sexism, anti gay, and other discrimination was wrong, evil, and ignorant. Our generation fought it and experienced it. (Of course, there were always those on the other side...in those days, military.) Many of the mellenials take these beliefs and rights for granted. It's taking a loud mouth bigot like Trump getting so close to having power to wake them up.

The Polack MSgt

(13,425 posts)
20. Well, I'm amazed that anyone at this late date
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 07:30 PM
Nov 2016

Is grasping reality for the "1st time".

I don't believe it for a second - Perhaps the spectacle of the GOP's true colors being shown - in public and out loud - is finally waking them up to the fact that racism lite is still evil

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
23. Cell phone footage of police oppression,
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 09:10 PM
Nov 2016

Black Lives Matter, social media, adult cartoons (Family Guy, etc.), socially aware music, the resurgence of anarchist philosophies, and probably tons of other things I'm not thinking of right now. That's my guess.

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