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White 77yo woman here. Have the voices in this forum been silenced?? Have seen few recent posts (Original Post) bobbieinok Dec 2017 OP
You answered your own question WhiteTara Dec 2017 #1
she's asking why people have left or have been pushed out dlwickham Dec 2017 #2
I never understood it. WhiteTara Dec 2017 #9
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #12
White 65 y/o male here, lifelong Dem. I honestly feel us older folk are no longer welcome. tonyt53 Dec 2017 #3
Do as told or laserhaas Dec 2017 #7
I have a thought this morning...I have pulled back on my comments asiliveandbreathe Dec 2017 #4
Its the Holidays for a lot of people. And the topics here have narrowed down to .... marble falls Dec 2017 #5
Just to note again: I miss DU's African American voices. The dem party dies without their input bobbieinok Dec 2017 #6
The current "ideal" of a Progressive "Fem" Party, is dead. laserhaas Dec 2017 #8
"Fem" party....please explain to me. I'm like 7 here. irisblue Dec 2017 #13
Yup..too young to grasp a typo laserhaas Dec 2017 #14
Actually as far as this group goes JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #16
Opines differ laserhaas Dec 2017 #17
Are you in contact with any of the missing members? JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #19
Adding - I had a really interesting online JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #23
Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #24
He just did to me JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #29
Anyone who gives an honest answer to this question murielm99 Dec 2017 #20
Yep - do you think JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #22
Spot On laserhaas Dec 2017 #26
We go to many domains that your progressive values laserhaas Dec 2017 #25
All forums are mising voices. But there are still posters like malaise and MrScorpio posting .... marble falls Dec 2017 #10
Well, I'm a 71 year old guy left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #11
DU tends to be older and white. murielm99 Dec 2017 #30
Some times it's like playing Whack-a-mole left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #31
As Group Host JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #15
Gone with the wind and sorely missed laserhaas Dec 2017 #18
+++ sheshe2 Dec 2017 #21
Thanks to everyone who has replied. I welcome any more input people would like to share bobbieinok Dec 2017 #27
+all the ones The Polack MSgt Dec 2017 #28

WhiteTara

(30,159 posts)
1. You answered your own question
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:22 AM
Dec 2017

I was aware many had left or been pushed out, but wanted to know what's going on??

WhiteTara

(30,159 posts)
9. I never understood it.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:43 AM
Dec 2017

I like Bravenak, 1StrongBlackMan, I understand their anger and demands that they are treated and considered equals. I had no argument with that. I learned much in this forum and I'm sorry it was destroyed.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
3. White 65 y/o male here, lifelong Dem. I honestly feel us older folk are no longer welcome.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:24 AM
Dec 2017

I feel that we our concept of equality for all with a welcome attitude for those that may have a different view on certain issues (such as abortion for one) are no longer welcome.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. I have a thought this morning...I have pulled back on my comments
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:25 AM
Dec 2017

I am woman..70 yrs young...as you know we have been through much in those years..from war, to the many fights for equality for ALL people...yet here we are - who would have thought we would be fighting for the very existence of these United States and the IDEA of Democracy ...

When the subject changes from evil to good I will be glad to participate more fully..

Right now I have the OBLIGATION to keep my sons and daughter free and safe so they may enjoy a future of prosperity that we have enjoyed most of our lives....my conversation with my retired Navy Chief (21 years in the service of this country) who now is ready to leave behind his country he so loves...he is a most gracious, caring, loving, and funny man...my only weapon - remain positive in the face of so much hate...

I did not bring them up to hate - but to understand ALL people are different in so many ways, and we need to recognize that for every bad in the world, we are the peacekeepers...for everyone we meet...

My children have been given full reign of their decisions and will always encourage them to do the most good for the most people..but always put your own oxygen mask on first...that is the only way to be sure you are able to help others....

I will continue to read most posts here..but have few words to offer for now..

Peace to you and to all good will....

marble falls

(62,058 posts)
5. Its the Holidays for a lot of people. And the topics here have narrowed down to ....
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:26 AM
Dec 2017

Al Franken, Roy Moore, Trump and his Cabinet of Deplorables and deplorable foriegn policies, Russia-gate - you can only say so much on so many repeat threads and so few topics.

The Al Franken OPs - for and against - are starting to get toxic and a lot of us are refusing to post on any of them.

It'll get better after Christmas and New Year, it always does.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
8. The current "ideal" of a Progressive "Fem" Party, is dead.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:40 AM
Dec 2017

But Bernie is doing what he can, to try and clean it up.

No more biased DNC!

JustAnotherGen

(33,550 posts)
16. Actually as far as this group goes
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:27 PM
Dec 2017

The voices silenced were not Sanders supporters.

I can't speak for folks outside of DU or in other groups -but that had ZERO to do with us 'leaving'.

Another piece of the puzzle - and count me among them - is the belief that there are 'Russians among us'.

I know reading that disturbs some DUer's - but since black Americans have been the subject of SO MUCH biased propaganda -

We might be able to 'smell it' before others.

JustAnotherGen

(33,550 posts)
23. Adding - I had a really interesting online
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:04 AM
Dec 2017

Convo with 1strong this morning. Said he got a pm from you once . . .

murielm99

(31,436 posts)
20. Anyone who gives an honest answer to this question
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:59 AM
Dec 2017

risks being alerted or banned. The Russians are only part of the problem.

JustAnotherGen

(33,550 posts)
22. Yep - do you think
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:37 AM
Dec 2017

I did 'good' with it?

There were actually a few 'test threads' during the summer - and good times! good times in here!


Yeah - no point in going that route.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
25. We go to many domains that your progressive values
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:28 PM
Dec 2017

Most tend to get haughty with me, as if our pursuits for justice, to get Sachs & Romney, indicted, is a violation of being a Liberal.

DailyKos inner circle stalked me, by a gang, always calling names and worse; and I was Boji'd for responding - in kind.

Censorship is - as censorship does.

Which reveals - true - character

marble falls

(62,058 posts)
10. All forums are mising voices. But there are still posters like malaise and MrScorpio posting ....
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:48 AM
Dec 2017

regularly.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. Well, I'm a 71 year old guy
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:11 PM
Dec 2017

I have posted here, rarely, when I feel I have a news story or article of particular interest to this forum.
Otherwise I usually post to General Discussion.

Someone mentioned 'ageism'. Maybe just not being aware, but I have not seen that as much as I have seen
"Thou shall not voice an opinion different from the majority"
or you will be alerted on, and often lose.

If the majority likes red apples, you are risking an alert to say
"I think those yellow Golden Delicious apples have some merit".

A couple times I have voiced (politely and friendly) my thoughts on an issue
and been told I would be happier going to a non-DU website.

Oh well, I have an 'ignore' button.

murielm99

(31,436 posts)
30. DU tends to be older and white.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

I don't see ageism as the problem.

There are some younger people who left here for JPR. I hope they stay there happily.

I feel that many women, and POC in particular, were chased off for stating their opinions loudly and articulately. Their issues were said to be wedge issues. They were dismissed as identity politics.

Democrats would be better off without the purity police. DU would be better off if we were allowed to criticize ANY elected official, Democrat, Republican or Independent. If that was the case on DU, we would have the vibrant discussions in this group that we had before the primary.

JustAnotherGen

(33,550 posts)
15. As Group Host
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:24 PM
Dec 2017

It's tough for me to answer this question.

I'm going to try and do so in a way that is respectful to DU as a hole and is not a TOS Violation.


There was for a few years concentrated attacks on some. Some voices were silenced. And those of us in solidarity with them are now 'with them' but in other forums/online formats. Example - bravenak and 1strong on twitter.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
27. Thanks to everyone who has replied. I welcome any more input people would like to share
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:57 PM
Dec 2017

Miss those mentioned by name as well.

What many at DU don't seem to realize is that for some of us older whites reading DU, this forum is/was one of the few accessable places we could get some insight into how African Americans really think when they don't feel they must wear a mask.

Apparently for too many vocal people here, those bits of insight were just too much to cope with.

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