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JustAnotherGen

(33,587 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:43 AM May 2018

Feelings - nothing more than feelings

So Af Am Group - I've got a question.

Many threads have been devoted to the #BlackTwitter name for White People.

First, I hope it's okay to write White People. I'm never sure these days.

Second - I wonder if the term really has to do with the number of characters? Like for example - the #BlackTwitter word only has 6 characters. White People (forgive me - math is like - haaaaaaaaaard) has 12 characters when you include the space between those two words. Could it be as simple as that?


Third - does this all really boil down to feelings? Has America including liberals and progressives and ESPECIALLY Americans who are black - learned nothing since 1865? Did we forget the ultimate rule -that we aren't allowed to have feelings about matters? Or if we do -have them disregarded by the dominant culture because after all - we are blapipo?


I'm thinking - that discomfort over words DOES count but ONLY if you are a White American. There - I wrote it.

Our feelings don't count. Here are things I'm 'learning' as black American - this is just a short list 'kay?:

1. Terrified of the police because you are black? Fuck you and your feelings.

2. Knowing that you as a black woman of means is more likely to die of breast cancer than a poor white women due to racial prejudice by doctors causes anxiety? Fuck you and your feelings.

3. Knowing your minor child can be shot by the police and everyone and their mother will question why your 12 year old antagonized a cop with a quick trigger and this causes you discomfort? Fuck you and your feelings?

4. Knowing a rising tide has NEVER lifted all boats in this country got you down? Fuck you and your feelings.

5. Knowing that you are in your third trimester and have MUCH higher risk of death post pregnancy and that it's just a number because AGAIN - you aren't precious and special to the medical community and so you spend much of the time fearing for how your child and family will get through without you? Fuck you and your feelings.

6. Knowing you can't throw a barbecue in a public place, listening to loud music, knock on a door for directions without getting shot, walking armed with skittles and iced tea could get you followed and shot by a pervert - getting in you in a snit? Fuck you and your feelings.

7. Being chastised for listening to music which contains the n-bomb got you up in YOUR FEELINGS? Fuck you and your feelings.

8. Oh - you don't like when people look past you at a store and cater to non-white folks spending less money than you and sales clerks apologizing to them for having to WAIT their fucking turn is irritating? Fuck you and your feelings.

9. Knowing that you worked hard to get where you are at and get ahead and you earned it yet still have people WHINE about quotas is irritating at the least? Fuck you and your feelings.

10. Knowing that in item #9 you are STILL being paid less whether you are a black man or a woman engineer for the same job some 22 year old white guy got because 'daddy had a connection' got you angry? Well just FUCK you and your feelings.


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I hope this clarifies things for you all. ONE word is the subject of much debate and so we are never ever ever eveeeeeeeeeeeer allowed to use that word because it might alienate people who don't really give a FUCK about YOUR feelings on anything.

So you see, it doesn't matter the word. What matters are feelings. Nothing more than THEIR feelings. Your 'feelings' about REAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS don't matter.

AllFeelingsMatter as long as they aren't yours.

That's all. I'm now taking #blacktwitter's word and trashing it at DU because I'm fucking BORED with the conversation.



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Feelings - nothing more than feelings (Original Post) JustAnotherGen May 2018 OP
Thanks bobbieinok May 2018 #1
K&R Gothmog May 2018 #2
Things that need to be said, Skidmore May 2018 #3
Morning K & R For You Me. May 2018 #4
Truth Marcuse May 2018 #5
Peace Me. May 2018 #6
Brava! brer cat May 2018 #7
K&R sheshe2 May 2018 #8
The 6 letter advantage has NO weight in online political forums Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #9
Posters using "Wypipo" here should make clear whether they mean racists or all white people Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #10
Wypipo by definition doesn't mean all white people. brer cat May 2018 #12
Which definition? Do you have a credible reference? Do all posters use your definition? Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #13
It has been said repeatedly by people using the term. brer cat May 2018 #16
I've seen both usages. Using terms unclearly does not bridge gaps. I simply suggested clarity. Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #17
Remarkable who has issues with this word and who doesnt. Set my watch by them Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #19
I'm feeling the same way. Corvo Bianco Jun 2018 #26
What exactly hinders your comprehension of the limiting nature of the term as used? LanternWaste May 2018 #14
I am not going to respond to YOU. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #15
Quite the stellar dive into the deep end of the irony pool! LanternWaste Jun 2018 #31
I responded to the other posters Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt May 2018 #11
Kick and Reced! ehrnst May 2018 #18
Oh my Goodness. I continue to be amazed by the Princess and the pea level of sensitivity here. The Polack MSgt May 2018 #20
We're all sensitive to the greatest hardships we've had to endure. Corvo Bianco Jun 2018 #27
But everything is just fine, I mean I heard racism is history now...wait Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #21
Perfect example EW! JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #24
This old white lady says... mcar May 2018 #22
You are dead on EffieBlack May 2018 #23
I'm dealing with this in a woman's group JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #25
Ironically Quayblue Jun 2018 #28
Why thank you Quay! JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #29
Girl I was just gonna stfu about it Quayblue Jun 2018 #30

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,927 posts)
10. Posters using "Wypipo" here should make clear whether they mean racists or all white people
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

... clear from context in their post or explicitly clear.

brer cat

(26,290 posts)
12. Wypipo by definition doesn't mean all white people.
Thu May 31, 2018, 12:58 PM
May 2018

It describes attitudes and behaviors of some white people. Why is that such a difficult concept to understand?

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,927 posts)
17. I've seen both usages. Using terms unclearly does not bridge gaps. I simply suggested clarity.
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:17 PM
May 2018

When a term is interpreted negatively by some members of the group a writer seeks to convince and negatively by some people who are generally already in league with the writer, then there is not going to be much convincing going on but there may be more preaching to the choir.

Loaded terms are dangerous to use unless they are used clearly. I DID say that writers could achieve that simply from the internal context of their writing.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. What exactly hinders your comprehension of the limiting nature of the term as used?
Thu May 31, 2018, 01:33 PM
May 2018

Seems pretty clear to me. What exactly hinders your comprehension of the limiting nature of the term as used?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. Quite the stellar dive into the deep end of the irony pool!
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 10:03 AM
Jun 2018

I get it. It can be frustrating when our disingenuous tendencies (e.g. "nitpicking&quot are wholly ignored in favor of our actual premises and conclusions.

(it may be of future assistance to you in Advanced Irony Avoidance to realize that 'respond' and 'answer' are two wholly separate concepts.)

Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

The Polack MSgt

(13,426 posts)
20. Oh my Goodness. I continue to be amazed by the Princess and the pea level of sensitivity here.
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:57 PM
May 2018

It really gravels my ass the amount of pre-emptive ego stroking and handholding that so many white folks need to get before they can even begin to address easily seen, readily verifiable facts involving race.

I've said it many times before and it looks like it'll be true the day I die... Too many fucking white people are weak minded frightened pieces of shit.

If that hurts your feelings well it's on you.

Unfortunately there are too many people who order the "2 piece, mild, with fries" that without a head start and massive support find just living in and reacting to the real world to be a fucking difficult burden.

It grates at my nerves

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
27. We're all sensitive to the greatest hardships we've had to endure.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

That someone of the privileged race would be upset that white people's racism is getting noticed tells me the type of inconveniences they've faced in their life.

And yes 25% of white people are dumb racist fucks and the other 25% are educated racist fucks. Both are bland and useless for conversation because they lack the imagination to comprehend someone else's actual suffering.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,536 posts)
21. But everything is just fine, I mean I heard racism is history now...wait
Thu May 31, 2018, 06:02 PM
May 2018
A Florida family is "heartbroken" after a jury awarded $4 in damages for funeral expenses and pain and suffering in a case in which a St. Lucie County deputy fatally shot a father of three through his garage door, the family's attorney said Thursday.

Deputy Christopher Newman killed Gregory Hill Jr., 30, in 2014 after a mother picking up her child at a school across the street called in a noise complaint.

Newman and another deputy responded to Hill's home, Hill partially opened the garage door, closed it and Newman fired four times, hitting Hill three times, including once in the head, according to court and police records.



'Black lives don't matter," lawyer says after jury awards family $4 in police killing


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/black-lives-dont-matter-lawyer-says-after-jury-awards-family-dollar4-in-police-killing/ar-AAy5lBk?li=BBnbcA1Black

JustAnotherGen

(33,587 posts)
24. Perfect example EW!
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:44 AM
Jun 2018

Yet another case of -

Oh your sad your father was murdered?

Fuck you and your feelings - focus on Jarvanka being called the C word.

That is a REAL injustice.

Same shit, different century.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
23. You are dead on
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:03 PM
May 2018

Whenever black folk raise these issues, we're told to stop being so sensitive, taking everything personally and assuming the worst motives by white people.

But let us say "wypipo" and suddenly hurt feelings are THE coin of the realm and the absolute most sensitive feelings are the determinant of what can and can't be said.

It's all very instructive.

JustAnotherGen

(33,587 posts)
25. I'm dealing with this in a woman's group
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:26 AM
Jun 2018

On Facebook in my township.

Seriously - we have some woman who is point blank - A racist -

whining about being called on.

You can't make this shit up.

When you say - all black people are poor and uneducated and they chose to be and . . .

You are literally a racist who can't admit that you have a two year degree and are a teachers assistant -

and as a result Michelle Obama is superior to you on every metric.

Well you are a racist.

And I don't care if it hurts her feelings to be told that. She has it coming!

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
28. Ironically
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 01:37 AM
Jun 2018

Last edited Tue Jun 5, 2018, 09:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Wypipo became a thing after online activists were being reported and banned on social media for saying "white people" while discussing racism.

It's amazing to see how the reason the term came about is being disregarded.

Of course, context isn't important to some. It's all feelings...business as usual.


Eta link to article:
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/31/facebook-hate-speech/

JustAnotherGen

(33,587 posts)
29. Why thank you Quay!
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jun 2018

Funny how that works -

So we can't even write 'white people' anymore. We can't write the 'w' word.

When will this persecution of us end? It's dare I say - 'divisive' for the group to get upset about - I dunno. I still don't get the insanity of a word or two words - but yes -

I guess now we have to write say -

Non African American, Asian, 1st Peoples, Asian Indian, Hispanic, Latino, Jewish, Arab people.


Like - that's a lot of freaking words to describe my mother.

Can't make this shit up!

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
30. Girl I was just gonna stfu about it
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 11:20 AM
Jun 2018

But it was itching my soul.

The fact we even have to go AAVE because of how clueless people are.

Now I'm feeling like I've given away a trade secret. But hey, fuckit.

Let's see how the allies do now.

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