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This thread cuts straight to the bone of the folks that @notcapnamerica calls (Original Post) The Polack MSgt Sep 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Sep 2020 #1
Thread reader app. ** I made the last paragraph bold print ** irisblue Sep 2020 #2
Wow! Thanks, irisblue, for taking the time to post all of that. Kind of Blue Sep 2020 #5
Thx for this MSgt, the rose twitter ppl are difficult online irisblue Sep 2020 #3
+1000! Kind of Blue Sep 2020 #4

Response to The Polack MSgt (Original post)

irisblue

(34,255 posts)
2. Thread reader app. ** I made the last paragraph bold print **
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:35 PM
Sep 2020

They sure ran off from the establishment to start a revolution that looks just the same as that old establishment

When John Lewis died very few precious condescending minutes we're given by WhiteDudeTube News to a man who when he passed WAS the Civil Rights movement. Recently a member of The Majority Report passed away suddenly the entire Progressive Pod world was all a sunder with tributes

It was considered the sadder loss and newsworthy because he was "ONE OF THEM. "They called him Comrade they told him to "REST IN POWER, KING." They

Labeled John Lewis a shill and a white pod caster as "A king" and to "rest in power" is a pretty blatant symptom of a major problem
Progressives don't seem to understand fully how progress works without Black progress there would have been no social progress for whites. voting rights, union rights, workers rights, disabled rights, LGBT rights we're all results of the civil rights act not the other way around

They think if we break up the banks and load white working class peoples money flush with funds and all the racial problems in the country will disappear. As with the new deal and trickle down black people will still be left out of the fun and the funds.
The Republican party has built all of their policies on racism. Pull yourself by your bootstraps and welfare queens we're directed at Black people. Fair housing act left black people put because Republicans know that black people have a more difficult time acquiring capital.

Paid less for a harder job. Sure there are plenty of white people who have and who still suffer under these policies but that's never the point. They're just collateral damage. If white racists know they can hurt minorities they're willing to trade of some white bodies in return

Republicans never attacked poor people because the were poor it was always because they knew black people were poor. They could use passive aggressive racism and attacks and get away with it. Then came Obama and they reverted back to blatant racism and attacks. Covert to Overt.

Black Lives Matter has been occupied by Free White College crowd.Bernie Sanders "Feel The Bern" message of White Peoples Money over all else landed flat with Black Voters as it always has. As it did when it was called The New Deal. And then Called Trickle Down.

And then called Fiscal Responsibility. But instead of self reflection it's the blame of the biggest tent for black voters called the Democratic Party.

A lot of people were with them until they started having jill not hill rally's and making the liberal case for Donald trump. Then they were outraged when people started looking at them side eyed and crazy as they left.

The two party system is not disappearing into thin air, but the opportunity has arisen to realistically fill the majority of the house and senate with elected democrats. But voting the republicans out isn't a priority when your entire shtick relies on both parties are the same.

Even though there would be zero chance of passing any progressive legislation with even a partial house of GOP the progressives are sticking to their guns of not ousting republicans unless they can oust the Democrats too. Which is like Telling George Foreman he might have beaten

Muhammad Ali if he had just decided to fight Joe Frazier at the same time. The Bernie or bust, jill not hill case never had any logic attached to it. Mostly because Just as Ralph Nader before her, Jill Stein never had a plan.

both knew full well that they'd never be president so even if a magic fairy came flying in on his Unicorn and waved a wand and made Ralph or Jill president America would had A President with No plan, no policies and no allies. It was never a realistic goal.

The only realistic goal was to sabotage the Democratic party and get the republican elected instead. And they we're fully shocked and outraged when rational people decided not to go along with THE PLAN.

As for Bernie Sanders it was never realistic because of his inability to rally black voters. He knew he'd never be president as sure as Ralph and Jill who went and died on A Hill.

Bernie Sanders like Jill Stein and Ralph Nader before him
make unrealistic and unreasonable goals for others to accomplish. Its the essence of Bernie Sanders political career making promises he wants others to keep.


A million thinkpieces on how Dems are too elitist to win back the white working class. Trump calls Dem base "savages" and nobody writes a piece about how

Republicans are repelling minority support because implicitly its an argument about who is valuable in society and who isn't.
Which is why you constantly hear about how Dems need to win the white working class or else, and you never hear about how Republicans are toxic in minority communities and cities.

Wealthy White Pod casters who moonlight as comedians or the other way around calling people who make 17 dollars an hour at wal mart establishment pigs who want poor people to die

the white progressive movement has defined itself as the true champions of the marginalized when their most prominent candidate cannot connect with marginalized voters

The message to white progressives should be own your bullshit. Don't pass it off to someone else when you do challenge them its right back to the same old dusty talking. It was all encapsulated in the Bernie Or Bust movement

And Rally's which we're all just A Redux of rage against the machine protesting the DNC but not the RNC in 2000 crowds of wealthy white kids pretending to love rap and hip hop and understanding more than those black guys, pretending to militant at rage concerts,

while the next day they go to their office jobs at waterpik and Microsoft all the while Voting for Jill Stein because they didn't bother to find out how black men or women felt about it..

It was all a Bond between white Conservatives and white progressives because they're brothers. The progressive one's may have wanted to vote for Hillary But their white bar buddies weren't having it. They didn't want to be embarrassed or attack their white family.

They come up with excuses as to white Brother and Daddy always voted Republican. "It's probably not because he's racist it's just because both parties are the same." To them they are what truly matters.
And they became known as The Horsehoe because in 2016 they made a bond, a pact with #MAGA

"whatever happens No Clinton's but somehow The Trump's were completely acceptable to both sides of the Horsehoe
and they still are.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not only Progressives they are the last progressive presidential ticket this country will ever see if Trump is re-elected. If that's not a good enough reason for you to vote for them then you're probably not as big of a progressive as you think.


irisblue

(34,255 posts)
3. Thx for this MSgt, the rose twitter ppl are difficult online
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 01:39 PM
Sep 2020

This thread, which I would not have seen, will become a reference point.

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