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CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:32 PM Mar 2023

Saint Patrick's Day is a religious holiday

I remember my late husband talking about it.

He didn't like going out to bars and getting drunk on St. Patrick's Day as he remembered the days that you went to CHURCH on St. Patrick's Day.

The corned beef and cabbage bit is an American thing.

No one in Ireland ever ate corned beef and cabbage in his day (1930's)!

So, now ya'll know!

Céad míle fáilte everyone & Happy St. Patrick's Day!

Ireland for the Irish!



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Saint Patrick's Day is a religious holiday (Original Post) CountAllVotes Mar 2023 OP
well of course you can't skip commercializing anything in a capitalist economy. Thomas Hurt Mar 2023 #1
Interesting history. Wonder if DeSantis would allow it? I recall something about riversedge Mar 2023 #2
Many were Gaelic speakers only CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #6
Interesting. Thx for sharing. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #3
My husband was from a farm in Co. Galway CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #5
Wow! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #8
All of their neighbors would come around to listen CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #10
I'll bet! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #11
They were considered to be "well off" CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #13
I'll bet they were! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #15
It would be an awfully long book! CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #16
You could easily make it into a series & I'll bet they'd sell like hotcakes SheltieLover Mar 2023 #17
I heard it wail from behind a glass door CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #18
I'll bet! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #19
He swore it only occured when someone with a surname beginning with an "O" died CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #21
This is all news to me lol SheltieLover Mar 2023 #23
The Wailing Irish Banshee CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #24
But why does it wail? SheltieLover Mar 2023 #25
She wails for the dead CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #26
But what's the point? SheltieLover Mar 2023 #27
oh please do tell. mopinko Apr 2023 #29
Patrick was an Italian who squashed the Irish native religions. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #4
It's unfortunate that "the snakes" were driven out of Ireland! Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #7
Do we really have to go there? CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #9
I'm demonizing the institution, which is oppressive and rotten to the core. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #12
Find another way to direct your hatred CountAllVotes Mar 2023 #14
Post removed Post removed Mar 2023 #20
BTW, I have Irish-Catholic ancestry. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #22
St Patrick's Battalion old as dirt Mar 2023 #28

riversedge

(73,118 posts)
2. Interesting history. Wonder if DeSantis would allow it? I recall something about
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:43 PM
Mar 2023

the Irish not being white in their early immigration to the US--and were discriminated against. Sorry but my memory of details is lacking.

CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
6. Many were Gaelic speakers only
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:53 PM
Mar 2023

In fact, my late husband learned Gaelic, Latin and English in school!

Some of those that immigrated during the Gold Rush years did not speak English.

NO IRISH NEED APPLY was the rule for many years.

In fact, if your surname had an "O", you were told to drop the "O".

My father never did any such thing! Never!



CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
5. My husband was from a farm in Co. Galway
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 12:50 PM
Mar 2023

His mother liked to kill a goose and have it for dinner.

That was something they only did on very special holidays as they were very poor.

Sad times it was in the '30's in Ireland.

His family was one of the few that had electricity and a radio!



SheltieLover

(59,599 posts)
8. Wow!
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:06 PM
Mar 2023

Very different from American Paddy's Day for sure.

Yeah, lots of folks had it really rough in the 30s. They were lucky to have electricity & radio!

CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
10. All of their neighbors would come around to listen
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:08 PM
Mar 2023

During the war all of the neighbors came to their house to find out WTF was going on with the war.

They had bombers flying over their farm.

It was not a good time!

Everyone that was able to get out, got out.

Can you blame them?



CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
13. They were considered to be "well off"
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:15 PM
Mar 2023

Being they had the radio and electricity, that was a very big deal.

I have so many stories of his I could tell, like his encounter with a banshee during the procession of a Mrs. O'Shaughnessy that had died at the age of 109 years in Athenry.



CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
16. It would be an awfully long book!
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:25 PM
Mar 2023

Forty-four years is a long long time.

He knew so much old knowledge that no one knows any longer, like his story about chasing the banshee in the field of Athenry c. 1945 or so!

He heard the wail and chased it and chased it but never caught the banshee.

The banshee is said to wail when anyone with a surname beginning with an "O" dies.

My surname begins with an "O" and I swear that banshee will wail when I die.

I'll be certain of that!

SheltieLover

(59,599 posts)
17. You could easily make it into a series & I'll bet they'd sell like hotcakes
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:33 PM
Mar 2023

Because, as you just said, nobody has that info these days.

Interesting aboug the banshee. I'd never heard of this term. Had to look it up.

CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
18. I heard it wail from behind a glass door
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:35 PM
Mar 2023

My father had died.

My mother heard it too.

WE LEFT!

It scared the holy hell out of us!

CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
21. He swore it only occured when someone with a surname beginning with an "O" died
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:42 PM
Mar 2023

I haven't looked real hard but I believe him!

Anyone with a surname beginning with an "O" is from an ancient Celtic family as I am.

His family didn't have much to say after they questioned him about if I was Irish or not!



CountAllVotes

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24. The Wailing Irish Banshee
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 02:03 PM
Mar 2023

>>Originally it was said that the Banshee only keened for the families; O’Grady, O’Neill, O’Brien, O’Connor, and Kavanagh. However, there are stories from various other families and that she particularly favorites those with an ‘O’ or a ‘Mc’ in the surname such as O’Brien or McNeill for example.

https://www.yourirish.com/folklore/banshees-in-ireland

More here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee








CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
26. She wails for the dead
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 02:13 PM
Mar 2023

Or for the upcoming dead is what I was told.

The cry was blood curdling I was told.

It frightened him but he chased the cry never to catch the banshee.

Sky Jewels

(8,819 posts)
7. It's unfortunate that "the snakes" were driven out of Ireland!
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:01 PM
Mar 2023

The country would have been much better off if it had kept the pagans and thrown out the evil, oppressive, women-hating grifting-ring known as the Catholic Church!

CountAllVotes

(21,066 posts)
9. Do we really have to go there?
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:06 PM
Mar 2023

There are a lot of Irish Catholics to be found.

Why demonize them because of their religion?

Sky Jewels

(8,819 posts)
12. I'm demonizing the institution, which is oppressive and rotten to the core.
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 01:14 PM
Mar 2023

I don't hate Catholic people. I do hate the Vatican and its centuries-long reign of terror, particularly towards women.

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