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Related: About this forumHere's some reaction to the WaPo football mascot poll
Last edited Thu May 26, 2016, 02:49 AM - Edit history (2)
First, let me declare my own reaction.
Any poll that claims 90% agreement on an issue as controversial as this is full of shit.
Any poll of "Native Americans" that does not offer in-depth explication of the complexities of Indian identity is full of shit.
Second, the Post itself ran a followup on the reaction:
For Native American activists, a new Post poll on Redskins name wont end their fight
So, they're just stirring the pot to lure clicks, or what?
Tribal leaders throughout Indian Territory have denounced the moniker. Led by the National Congress of American Indians, the Oneida Indian Nation in New York, and others, the activists won a string of high-profile victories over the past three years. President Obama, 50 Democratic U.S. senators, dozens of sports broadcasters and columnists, several newspaper editorial boards (including The Posts), civil rights and religious leaders called on team owner Daniel Snyder to act.
Here's Jackie Pata, Ku seen, a vice president of my tribe, quoted in the article:
National Congress of American Indians Executive Director Jacqueline Pata said in a statement Thursday that more than 100 Native American organizations have spoken in opposition to the teams name.
It is true some Native people do not find the word offensive, Pata said. However, thousands of Native people across the country have voiced their opposition to the name and the historic, disparaging connotations it carries to this day."
It is true some Native people do not find the word offensive, Pata said. However, thousands of Native people across the country have voiced their opposition to the name and the historic, disparaging connotations it carries to this day."
Third, Native Appropriations blog doesn't approve:
WaPos new Redsk*ns survey: Faulty data and missing the point
This is not something I should have to do. For the last 7 years Ive been writing this blog weve made huge gains in the way the public thinks about Native peoples and Native mascots. Its been the hard, hard work of a huge community of activists and community members for decades, and I just dont understand why WaPo felt the need to do this poll. More on this in a minute, but weve got psychological studies, tribal council votes, thousands of Native voices, and common decency and respect on our side, yet that was not enough.
Fourth, there's Bernie's advisor Tara Houska at ICTMN:
Houska: Regardless of WaPo Poll, Native Mascots Hurt Our Youth
...Native mascots have repeatedly been empirically shown to harm the self-esteem of Native American youth. Period.
It does not matter if Im offended or if your Native American friend is not. Racial stereotypes are harmful to our children. Another study demonstrated that Native mascots increase the likelihood of non-Native children to indoctrinate stereotypes of other races. Racism begets racism.
The act of polling a human rights issue is absurd. It trivializes the reports and experiences of those Native people whove been hurt and damaged by Native stereotypes and by the Washington team name. Stereotypes are wrong and demeaning, said Amanda Blackhorse, lead plaintiff of the lawsuit challenging the Washington teams trademarks.
Indeed. What other racial slur does America poll? What other racial stereotype requires a poll to determine if its dehumanizing? What other group is told they have more important things to worry about, as if Native Americans are somehow incapable of combating racism and poverty at the same time?
When you dont treat a group of people like living human beings, it affects that group at every level. Racism is a fundamental, invasive issue.
It does not matter if Im offended or if your Native American friend is not. Racial stereotypes are harmful to our children. Another study demonstrated that Native mascots increase the likelihood of non-Native children to indoctrinate stereotypes of other races. Racism begets racism.
The act of polling a human rights issue is absurd. It trivializes the reports and experiences of those Native people whove been hurt and damaged by Native stereotypes and by the Washington team name. Stereotypes are wrong and demeaning, said Amanda Blackhorse, lead plaintiff of the lawsuit challenging the Washington teams trademarks.
Indeed. What other racial slur does America poll? What other racial stereotype requires a poll to determine if its dehumanizing? What other group is told they have more important things to worry about, as if Native Americans are somehow incapable of combating racism and poverty at the same time?
When you dont treat a group of people like living human beings, it affects that group at every level. Racism is a fundamental, invasive issue.
And Houska again, in the New York Times:
A Heated Linguistic Debate: What Makes Redskins a Slur?
"It should be a no-brainer but somehow, its not.
Fifth, Jacqueline Keeler, in the Nation:
On the Shameful and Skewed Redskins Poll
Even if the poll was conducted perfectly and even if the results had been completely reversed, The Washington Post did a grave disservice by utterly ignoring studies that clearly demonstrate the harm mascotting causes to Native youththe most vulnerable population in the country by almost any statistic.
Our young people have a rate of suicide 2.5 times higher than average. According to the American Psychological Association, which has called for the ending of the practice of mascotting, Native youth suffer measurably lower self-esteem after exposure to a Native American mascot. It also found that Native respondents who claim to be okay with Native mascots actually experience a greater drop in self-esteem. This finding is particularly relevant to the Washington Post poll, which has been widely interpreted as proof that theres no harm in using the slur for a $2 billion NFL franchise in the nations capital.
Our young people have a rate of suicide 2.5 times higher than average. According to the American Psychological Association, which has called for the ending of the practice of mascotting, Native youth suffer measurably lower self-esteem after exposure to a Native American mascot. It also found that Native respondents who claim to be okay with Native mascots actually experience a greater drop in self-esteem. This finding is particularly relevant to the Washington Post poll, which has been widely interpreted as proof that theres no harm in using the slur for a $2 billion NFL franchise in the nations capital.
Sixth, here's my cousin, whose opinion matters more than any poll respondent, protesting at the White House several years ago, and I'm sure her view hasn't changed since then:
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Finally, back to my own opinion.
To anyone willing to embrace this poll as justification for your knee-jerk opposition to "political correctness": you are full of shit. "Political correctness" is right wing disparagement of what used to be called common decency, and if you're against that, you don't deserve any in return.
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Here's some reaction to the WaPo football mascot poll (Original Post)
Mike__M
May 2016
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underpants
(186,891 posts)1. Excellent info. Thanks.
shenmue
(38,537 posts)2. I thought the results were b.s. too