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so, i have this little urban farm. it sits in the north east corner of chicago. it is 5 pieces of property, all a city lot and a half.
i am close to loyola university, and the guy that runs their sustainable ag program there has entrusted me w a bit of history that i am just sure i am not worthy of.
he was given some 20 year old seeds of the original american tobacco. he got a flat of plants, and gave 3 to me.
they came to him through a man named john svenson, a man who deserves a nobel prize for his contributions to botany and to agriculture. he is one of the founders of the seed savers, and these seeds were part of his gift of his personal seed vault to them.
most of my main lot, which has no buildings on it, is full sun, but tobacco is an understory plant. (the other 4 have buildings on them. rental housing is what pays the bills here.) so i had to make a special place for them. i had a little hoop house that i was planning to move this year, but i decided to leave it where it is, and plant beans and squashes up the frame, plus some trellis, to shade the plants.
i will take some cuttings from my grape vines and plant them too for later years.
there is an the remains old mulberry next to it, cut down but not dead, that shades it from the late afternoon sun.
that i have been entrusted w this bit of history still boggles my mind a bit. but i have done everything i could to take care of them, and make the right place for them.
when they get a bit bigger is will post some pics.
i guess i am posting here to ask for some blessings for this. it has actually been a part of some neighborhood drama over people setting off explosions, and being assholes, and everyone going nuts.
it is peaceful now, and i think that old grudges have been buried.
but i dont think it would hurt to ask for good wishes of peace and tranquility, and good rains for the rest of the season.
can i get a culturally appropriate amen?
eta a link to my farm fb page, since it isnt in my sigline anymore-
http://facebook.com/moahsark
leftieNanner
(15,703 posts)People who grow food are life givers. Thank you for your work.
mopinko
(71,870 posts)it's been a crazy year, but this is year 8, and so much is coming together. it's really exciting. getting fruit on my fruit trees, and soil building projects getting to be just right.
so glad to live where i do, w things fairly under control.
elleng
(136,387 posts)Shalom!
salam!
Zoonart
(12,773 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)will not advise me to drink bleach so AMEN to you my friend!
mopinko
(71,870 posts)i sorta purposely dont wear a mask in my garden so people will keep their distance.
it used to be so quiet here during the day. but now. man.
marked50
(1,444 posts)blm
(113,834 posts)mopinko
(71,870 posts)thanks of friend.
we have to meet in meatspace one day.
what a tale the long version of this story is.
brer cat
(26,345 posts)I hope you have good rains to bless your treasured plants.
mopinko
(71,870 posts)and this spot, having been covered for the last 3 years, needed so much water just to get it ready.
raining today, tho, and got a bit yesterday. if it can just keep up till the beans, etc, can give them some shade, they will thrive, i think.
that stuff was sitting in pots for too long too, so it should all shoot up fast.
thx for the amen.
Karadeniz
(23,442 posts)Their territory was because raising tobacco wrecked the soil. Also the need for new boundaries was why Washington became a surveyor. I don't want the tobacco to ruin your soil!❤
mopinko
(71,870 posts)i dont intend to expand, so i dont have to worry about that, tho....
i do need to look into the soils issue, tho. this spot is freshly built soil. 5 year ago it was a pile of huge logs. i do hugelkultur here.
so, there is very little in the way of sand/minerals.
i did give it a shot of a good fertilizer, and a combo mineral source.
and i always plant beans the first year i put a pile into production.
should be interesting.
also have 3 little paw paws to add to this little bit of understory.
never thought i would go out of my way to block out the sun.
bubbazero
(296 posts)1. I wish you much success in your agricultural endeavors--"ag'r" myself...........2. Might want to check with extension service for permits and growing season length. Not much org 'American' Tobacco grown in upper Midwest. Hoop building might help. (Seriously, check for permits)
mopinko
(71,870 posts)to sell, i presume so. but to grow? aint nobody gonna know what that plant is unless i tell them, and i have grown other nicotiana family. night scented tobacco is one of my favorite flowers, and i grow it for the night pollinators. the perfume of it physically hits you in the face when you walk up to it.
my seedlings failed this year, so i was super happy to see these little tobacco plants.
the guy who gave them to me would know, and he didnt mention it. he is a prof of urban ag, so...
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,458 posts)Paz
mopinko
(71,870 posts)been brushing up my high school spanish lately, so i especially appreciate that blessing.