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douglas9

(4,576 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 06:56 AM Jan 25

Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders

The DOJ argued in court that Indigenous people don’t have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, so neither should children of noncitizens born in the US

As U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement intensifies its efforts to apprehend and deport undocumented immigrants throughout the country, concern is rising among Indigenous communities residing in urban areas about reports of Indigenous people being detained in the Valley.

Since President Donald Trump issued his executive order for an increase in ICE raids, Navajo tribal leaders have received alarming reports that their tribal members are being detained, heightening uncertainties over the implications these actions have for their communities and the safety of their people.

“We now know that Navajo people and enrolled members of other tribes are being detained in Phoenix and other cities by ICE,” Navajo Nation Council Speaker Crystalyne Curley said during a committee meeting on Thursday. “The reports that we have received indicate that we need to coordinate an operation or some type of response to help our enrolled tribal members here on the Navajo Nation.”

On Thursday, Navajo tribal leaders reported that they have received calls and text messages from Navajo people living in urban areas who have been stopped, questioned or detained by ICE. Those reports sparked outrage among Navajo Nation Council members and prompted a detailed discussion of the topic during a Naabik’íyáti’ Committee meeting.


https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports-of-navajo-people-being-detained-in-immigration-sweeps-sparks-concern-from-tribal-leaders/

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Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders (Original Post) douglas9 Jan 25 OP
This can't be?.............. Lovie777 Jan 25 #1
words fail me. nt KarenS Jan 25 #2
Extremely disturbing and infuriating Mike 03 Jan 25 #3
Only white Christian males will be citizens. Irish_Dem Jan 25 #4
I am a white male, born in N.J. I was on a Greyhound bus at Indio, California, and asked for my immigration papers. 3Hotdogs Jan 25 #10
We will have to carry our DNA profile with us at all times. Irish_Dem Jan 25 #11
Wasn't there a story here reporting that Trump made gains in getting tribal votes? The old FAFO would apply if true. dem4decades Jan 25 #5
Skewed poll. Natives voted Dem. Clouds Passing Jan 25 #27
Unconstitutional abuse of power and illegal? Disgusting in any case Evolve Dammit Jan 25 #6
Racial profiling. sop Jan 25 #7
Native Americans ARE recognized as American citizens. no_hypocrisy Jan 25 #8
Where? robleb Jan 25 #12
Exactly. They're already restricted to small areas of land. no_hypocrisy Jan 25 #13
And where would Dr. T Jan 25 #9
Exactly HarryM Jan 25 #15
Wounded Knee comes to mind. orangecrush Jan 25 #14
Little Big Horn mokeyz Jan 25 #24
The malicious abuse of Original Americans... GiqueCee Jan 25 #16
Everyone needs to be able to show their papers. mtngirl47 Jan 25 #17
When will our government bronxiteforever Jan 25 #18
Unless your ancestors look like this... FailureToCommunicate Jan 25 #19
Don't know about you, but I remember what those people tried to do to John Wayne on his documentary, Stagecoach. 3Hotdogs Jan 25 #28
The ineptitude of tRump's DOJ on display -- 70sEraVet Jan 25 #20
Native Americans are Americans end of story Botany Jan 25 #21
To which country do they deport them? The one they originated from? A circular process? surfered Jan 25 #22
Talk about setting the clock back 150 years. DFW Jan 25 #23
Where would Biglinda 52 Jan 25 #25
No matter how bad I think it could be, PatSeg Jan 25 #26
Sheer insanity Bayard Jan 25 #29
Send 'em back where they came from! ThoughtCriminal Jan 25 #30
This Is Illegal Daleuhlmann Jan 25 #31
8 USC 1401 struggle4progress Jan 25 #32
Racists make no distinctions. They mistake Native Americans for Hispanics, and Sikhs for Muslims. Martin68 Jan 26 #33
where are they going to fly them? 4catsmom Jan 26 #34

Mike 03

(18,196 posts)
3. Extremely disturbing and infuriating
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:08 AM
Jan 25

Michelangelo Signorile discussed this yesterday on his program. He discussed the ineptitude of the ICE agents who apparently had little to no experience evaluating the IDs of Native Americans, and he pointed out that the IDs vary from tribe to tribe. What a clusterf*ck.

Really heartened to see a post about this topic on DU. I hope we can get updates and follow this as these raids unfold.

Irish_Dem

(64,742 posts)
4. Only white Christian males will be citizens.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:19 AM
Jan 25

The rest of us will not be citizens or considered human.

3Hotdogs

(13,913 posts)
10. I am a white male, born in N.J. I was on a Greyhound bus at Indio, California, and asked for my immigration papers.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:15 AM
Jan 25

I was Christian at that time. BUT IT WAS STILL SCARY. All I had, was a N.J. driver's license.

My Italian genes caused the mixup? Or maybe it was my 15% Aryan genes, as pointed out by 23 + me.

Irish_Dem

(64,742 posts)
11. We will have to carry our DNA profile with us at all times.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:22 AM
Jan 25

Along with our passport, birth certificate, driver's license, voter's registration, etc.

And women will have to be ready for a genital check before they enter a restroom.

dem4decades

(12,405 posts)
5. Wasn't there a story here reporting that Trump made gains in getting tribal votes? The old FAFO would apply if true.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:20 AM
Jan 25

no_hypocrisy

(50,401 posts)
8. Native Americans ARE recognized as American citizens.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:28 AM
Jan 25

Treaties.
They aren't "aliens".
They can vote.
They can't be deported as "undocumented immigrants".
Their ancestors preceded the European settlors.

Another question:
Will TSF order research on all our ancestors who immigrated to the U.S., but didn't "naturalize" and then claim WE'RE unlawfully residing in the U.S.?

Dr. T

(121 posts)
9. And where would
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:03 AM
Jan 25

ICE deport Native Americans to? Their country of origin is here. I suppose the point is to harass and terrorize.

HarryM

(289 posts)
15. Exactly
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:28 AM
Jan 25

These bass turds need to be deposed. Forget impeachment in 2 years. When are people gonna wake the hell up and REVOLT!

GiqueCee

(1,812 posts)
16. The malicious abuse of Original Americans...
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:29 AM
Jan 25

... is never ending, but the evil monster defiling the Oval Office – for now – has upped the ante exponentially. He and his SS goons are wiping the asses with the Constitution. There have to be consequences. Cowardly courts and sniveling legislators have given him a pass far too often.

3Hotdogs

(13,913 posts)
28. Don't know about you, but I remember what those people tried to do to John Wayne on his documentary, Stagecoach.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jan 25

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Yes Louise, it's sarcasm.

70sEraVet

(4,363 posts)
20. The ineptitude of tRump's DOJ on display --
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:55 AM
Jan 25
“The United States’ connection with the children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors is weaker than its connection with members of Indian tribes,” DOJ argued in a filing. “If the latter link is insufficient for birthright citizenship, the former certainly is,” the Trump administration argued.”

The DOJ cited an 1884 U.S. Supreme Court case, Elk v. Wilkins, in which the high court decided that “because members of Indian tribes owe ‘immediate allegiance’ to their tribes, they are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States and are not constitutionally entitled to Citizenship.”

But the DOJ ignored congressional action, the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, that explicitly gave Indigenous people U.S. birthright citizenship and effectively ended the rejection of citizenship that the Supreme Court had upheld four decades earlier.


(same article)

Their argument must have pissed the judge off, royally.

surfered

(5,180 posts)
22. To which country do they deport them? The one they originated from? A circular process?
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:04 AM
Jan 25

Insane!

DFW

(57,284 posts)
23. Talk about setting the clock back 150 years.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:21 AM
Jan 25

If Native American tribe members use firearms on European-Americans trying to kidnap them illegally, isn’t that the classic definition of self-defense?

PatSeg

(49,894 posts)
26. No matter how bad I think it could be,
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:46 AM
Jan 25

somehow he manages to exceed my every expectation. I am horrified every day.

Bayard

(24,343 posts)
29. Sheer insanity
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 12:28 PM
Jan 25

Do they think Indigenous people are Mexicans because they have black hair and darker skin?

I have a tshirt with a picture of Geronimo on it saying--"Show Me Your Papers." trump's grandfather was an immigrant, so was his wife, and his partner in crime, The Muskrat. Unless you are Indigenous, your ancestry is immigrant. I would say the hypocrisy and racism is astounding, but nothing is anymore.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,453 posts)
30. Send 'em back where they came from!
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:27 PM
Jan 25

"Then we kicked them off there. I guess we’re gonna send ‘em back where they came from. Yeah, we bought the Bering Strait theory. “Put the Welfare people to work filling in the Bering Strait and charge them Indians a buck a head to send ‘em home. It’s a good sound business solution.” - George Carlin

Daleuhlmann

(343 posts)
31. This Is Illegal
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jan 25

How can this action possibly be legal? Trump's deportations specifically exclude Native Americans.

struggle4progress

(121,680 posts)
32. 8 USC 1401
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jan 25

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth ...

(b)a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

Martin68

(25,029 posts)
33. Racists make no distinctions. They mistake Native Americans for Hispanics, and Sikhs for Muslims.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jan 26

"Shoot first an d let God sort it out later" is their motto.

4catsmom

(550 posts)
34. where are they going to fly them?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:01 PM
Jan 26

Manhattan? Please tell me that ICE isn't this stupid, though every indication is otherwise

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