Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ProfessorGAC

(69,750 posts)
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:18 PM Aug 2021

Cam Newton Released By Pats

Jones is now the starter.
ESPN reported that suitors for Newton are limited, heavily influenced by his refusal to get vaxxed. Unconfirmed number says only 2 Patriots were not yet vaxxed. When the starting QB is one of them, it seems quite problematic
But, another commentator made a strong case for Houston because it's so unlikely Watson will play for them this year.
Despite this, the unvaxxed status is giving them pause.

13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Cam Newton Released By Pats (Original Post) ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 OP
Ahhhh, Houston... where QBs go to die. dixiechiken1 Aug 2021 #1
Hey hey underpants Aug 2021 #2
I don't get Jones. underpants Aug 2021 #3
Word On Jones Has Been... ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #4
I'm rooting for Mac Jones True Dough Aug 2021 #7
Point Of Contention ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Aug 2021 #5
Don't underestimate Mac Jones. bamagal62 Aug 2021 #6
Hopefully Tua is better BradAllison Aug 2021 #9
Other possible landing spots for Cam True Dough Aug 2021 #8
It will be Mac Jones vs. Tua Tagovailoa in Week 1 True Dough Sep 2021 #10
Not pulling the plug yet... True Dough Sep 2021 #12
He Is Pretty Young ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #13

underpants

(186,499 posts)
3. I don't get Jones.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:47 PM
Aug 2021

He played on a Bama team in which he almost couldn’t fail. So much talent.

He held the ball a long time it seemed to me. Of course, with that line and those receivers he could.

Cam is a transcendent for the QB position. If he was on the Lombardi Packers he would have been the largest player on the team. Vick is a whole other story. I think he’s last his edge. He’s worth $75M, he’ll be okay. BTW Cam won three national championships in college.

ProfessorGAC

(69,750 posts)
4. Word On Jones Has Been...
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:28 PM
Aug 2021

...he's got a very quick release (maybe he got coaching because what you say was correct), he processes information very quickly, (already knows the whole playbook), very accurate, & his teammates are both impressed and they like him.
That all seems a pretty good set of launch conditions.
We shall see.
But, Bellichek saw something in Brady that most others didn't. He was right about him. I think his judgment deserves latitude.

True Dough

(20,148 posts)
7. I'm rooting for Mac Jones
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:00 PM
Aug 2021

and I like Cam Newton (just not his decision not to get vaccinated).

But you're giving Belichick to much credit as a judge of young talent. Outside of Brady and a few others, he's a notoriously poor drafter. Hopefully Jones will be another exception.

ProfessorGAC

(69,750 posts)
11. Point Of Contention
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 12:25 PM
Sep 2021

He's been a notoriously poor early round drafter.
He's had many picks 3rd round & lower that turned into solid, long career pros.
Particularly D line, O line, & linebackers.
Totally agree though that he whiffed on several first round picks.
One other thing I considered was McDaniel.
The offense evolved to maximize the strengths of Brady. McDaniel now knows exactly what skillset is ideal because they had the archetype for 20 years.
McDaniel may have had a lot of influence over this.

Response to underpants (Reply #3)

True Dough

(20,148 posts)
8. Other possible landing spots for Cam
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:13 PM
Aug 2021

"He will find a home as a backup," an AFC exec said. "I don't doubt that at all. I could see Minnesota bringing him in. They need a QB, a No. 2. [Kellen] Mond isn't ready."

Dallas is a natural spot, with Cooper Rush the only quarterback on the current roster behind Dak Prescott. The Cowboys will at least look into this one. Newton obviously wouldn't be a threat to Prescott, who is due $160 million over the next four years. But while he was durable through his first four seasons, Prescott is coming off ankle and shoulder issues. Having a trusted veteran such as Newton isn't a bad thing.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/32119555/nfl-execs-patriots-qb-decision-mac-jones-potential-starter-landing-spots-cam-newton-more

True Dough

(20,148 posts)
10. It will be Mac Jones vs. Tua Tagovailoa in Week 1
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 09:19 AM
Sep 2021

And Tom Brady will come calling at Foxborough in Week 4. That will be a ratings bonanza!

ProfessorGAC

(69,750 posts)
13. He Is Pretty Young
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 06:01 PM
Sep 2021

So, I get his feelings on that. I'm sure he's not ready for retirement.
But, we're 9 days in & no noise from other teams.
We'll see what happens if somebody's starter gets hurt, I suppose.

Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Sports»Cam Newton Released By Pa...