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Related: About this forumCleveland Browns trade for Deshaun Watson, will pay him $230 million
Gonna be interesting to see whether the league slaps him with a suspension, and for how long, relating to those 22 women accusing him of inappropriate sexual behavior and filing civil suits.
Rapoport reported the Texans will receive three first-round draft picks in the trade in addition to a 2023 third-rounder and a 2024 fourth-rounder as Watson has made the decision to waive his no-trade clause to go to Cleveland after also meeting with the Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers this week. The Browns will receive a 2024 fifth-rounder as part of a late-round pick swap.
Watson will receive a five-year, fully guaranteed $230 million contract from the Browns, per Rapoport. As part of the deal, the QB will receive a $45 million signing bonus and his base salary for the 2022 season will be $1 million, Pelissero added.
https://www.nfl.com/news/texans-qb-deshaun-watson-expected-to-be-traded-to-browns
AZProgressive
(29,348 posts)Watson is not worth that much even if he doesnt get suspended.
First Christian Kirk and now this. Wild off-season.
bahboo
(16,953 posts)and I'm a Bears fan for chrissakes....
Ziggysmom
(3,574 posts)to add to mankind.
NoRethugFriends
(2,993 posts)Auggie
(31,798 posts)From cleveland.com, subsidiary of the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
But with Browns co-owner Dee Haslam a member of NFL Conduct Committee, the Browns thoroughly investigated Watson and determined that he wouldnt be accused of sexual misconduct in the future, and that hed do whatever necessary to make restitution for his mistakes.
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/03/deshaun-watson-reverses-field-and-picks-the-cleveland-browns-in-a-stunning-turn-of-events-will-receive-a-blockbuster-new-deal.html
Haslam is married to the owner.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)She is a co-owner.
Auggie
(31,798 posts)True Dough
(20,263 posts)As a Browns fan, are you conflicted about having Watson as your starter? If Cleveland manages to win a Super Bowl next year, will it have an asterisk next to it in your mind?
Auggie
(31,798 posts)If Cleveland wins a Super Bowl I'd be doggoned happy. Surprised, but doggoned happy.
(Las Vegas, by the way, increased the odds of the Browns winning the SB in 2022 from 40-1 to 20-1 with Watson's signing).
It's obvious the front office is going for broke with the running game pretty much in tact and pass rusher Myles Garrett still under contract.
But sheee-it, for one guy they gave up A LOT and they're paying A LOT.
IMO Mayfield is a serviceable QB. Give him a healthy running game and pass protection, field a decent defense with a deep bench, and he can win a Super Bowl. Those picks they gave away could have helped build that deeper, stronger team, just like the two picks they gave up for Beckham a few years ago, two of which could be solid, veteran line players the Browns so desperately need right now.
I predict this, like the Beckham deal, will bite them in the ass. Could be through injury, a weak roster, a suspension, internal squabbling, felony ... who knows (the Browns are masters at finding new ways to screw up).
What do you think True Dough?
True Dough
(20,263 posts)because Andrew Berry gave me a call yesterday and asked whether the organization should pull the trigger on this deal. I gave him the green light.
Seriously, I feel like the 20-1 odds that you cited would be reasonable for this season. I suspect that the league is going to hand Watson a stiff suspension for all of his transgressions -- something in the 8 to 10 game range. So we could be looking at up to 10 games with Case Keenum as the starter (because, let's face it, Mayfield is now going to be traded and hopefully the Browns get something decent in return).
So Watson returns for the latter half of the season and Cleveland may be sitting at 5-5 by that point. It's going to take a while for him to get some chemistry, so we can expect some missed passes, fumbles and broken plays for a while. But they should make the playoffs and maybe even make a deep run if they jell. And, don't forget, they were a top 5 defense last season and that shouldn't fall off. They're very good on that side of the ball already.
Now, I haven't looked up the contract status of their running backs (Chubb, Hunt and D'Ernest Johnson, who was a pleasant surprise in his few starts last season). If they retain two of those three next season and Watson and Amari Cooper light things up and the D remains rock solid, you're looking at a real Super Bowl contender.
They are not that far off! I'm way more optimistic than you are -- but it's easier for me because I haven't been cheering for them through decades of futility and frustration.
Auggie
(31,798 posts)Cincinnati Bengals
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Away
Cincinnati Bengals
Baltimore Ravens
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Eight winnable games: Falcons, Panthers, Texans, Commanders, SteelersX2, Jets, and Saints.
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Players under contract until:
Garrett/2027
Cooper/2025
Bitonio/2026
Chubb/2025
More at https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/contracts/
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True Dough
(20,263 posts)The Browns have committed soooo much money to Watson that they have to climb the mountain over the next few seasons. After that, they're going to have all kinds of salary cap constraints. Plus, all those first round picks. The longer-term future won't be as bright, so they need to get the job done soonish.
True Dough
(20,263 posts)Auggie
(31,798 posts)It's sick.
Just the 49ers from now on.
Raven123
(6,038 posts)Watson gets a ton of money, and Baker gets out of Cleveland. The Browns organization imaginatively, manages to look even worse than it has the past many years. The fans, as usual get nuthin.
Dan
(4,095 posts)I really havent watched Deshaun play much - but I have watched Baker Mayfield the past two years.
While Baker may have had some issues this year, my thoughts were Baker has the potential to be a damn good quarterback. IF he is traded (and agrees to the trade) I hope that he ends up in New Orleans. I think the Saints have the staff to really groom him plus I think that the offensive line is more suited to his playing style.
I always felt that the problems with the Browns this past year wasnt the players, it was the coaching and offensive coordinator. Thats my thought, plus they really didnt trade up in getting Deshaun - they just wanted to get rid of Baker (scapegoat him for the last seasons failures).
True Dough
(20,263 posts)that Mayfield's preferred landing spot is with the Colts. Wonder if Frank Reich is warm to the idea?
Angleae
(4,640 posts)True Dough
(20,263 posts)Where he goes is really unclear. Some are speculating that Seattle is a real possibility. Others think Pittsburgh.
We shall see.
Angleae
(4,640 posts)True Dough
(20,263 posts)The word going around is that he was pretty to hold out this season until he got the contract terms he was demanding. He's not a team-first kind of player. God knows he'll be sulky as hell now and he has demanded a trade since the handwriting is on the wall with Watson as the #1 QB for the long-term.