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red dog 1

(29,296 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 04:09 PM Jun 2024

Should Barry Bonds be inducted into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame?


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Barry Bonds deserves to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame
7 (29%)
Barry Bonds doesn't deserve to be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame
16 (67%)
I don't care if he's inducted or not
1 (4%)
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Should Barry Bonds be inducted into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame? (Original Post) red dog 1 Jun 2024 OP
You left out one.... sdfernando Jun 2024 #1
A former major leaguer oswaldactedalone Jun 2024 #3
Barry Bonds deserves to be in the Hall of Fame red dog 1 Jun 2024 #2
Yes, he was a hall of fame before he started using steroids. Bleacher Creature Jun 2024 #4
The HOF should allow Andy Van Slyke an official vote 303squadron Jun 2024 #5
No. Neither should Sosa or McGuire (among others). n/t ms liberty Jun 2024 #6
They let in a lot of steroid cheats already...plus his pre-roid stats JT45242 Jun 2024 #7
The best hitter these former MLB players ever saw red dog 1 Jun 2024 #8
Yes, but I think Pete Rose should be also. Bristlecone Jun 2024 #9
Bonds did not use steroids tirebiter Jun 2024 #10
Go Giants! red dog 1 Jun 2024 #15
Except he admitted to using them during his grand jury testimony. Angleae Jun 2024 #18
Enough sports writers and former athletes of renown think so ... Auggie Jun 2024 #11
That would be my condition True Dough Jun 2024 #12
If transgender females who transitioned after puberty can play with women, Bonds should be in the HOF elias7 Jun 2024 #13
I'm cool with it assuming the appropriate asterisk (*) is assigned to his name Brother Buzz Jun 2024 #14
Hmmm. Wonder if we will see cboy4 or upton chime in on this? madinmaryland Jun 2024 #16
Then there's Tim Lyncecum, no steroids, just too short a time for all of his accomplishments tirebiter Jun 2024 #17
Not only should he not be admitted, but the other roid users already in should be expelled. Angleae Jun 2024 #19
Barry Bonds & Ken Griffey at Rickwood tirebiter Jun 2024 #20

oswaldactedalone

(3,557 posts)
3. A former major leaguer
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jun 2024

who, when he came up to the majors was a skinny pencil neck and after years of steroid abuse had a head so big, they couldn’t find ballcaps big enough to fit him. He went from looking like the Scarecrow to the Michelin Man. He broke Hank Aaron’s all-time home run record but broke major league rules to do it, so NO hall of fame for Bonds.

Bleacher Creature

(11,434 posts)
4. Yes, he was a hall of fame before he started using steroids.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jun 2024

At what point do you draw the line? For example, what if you have a shoo-in who was clean for 19 years and started using steroids to try and get through year 20? Is that an automatic disqualifier?

303squadron

(675 posts)
5. The HOF should allow Andy Van Slyke an official vote
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 04:32 PM
Jun 2024

Here's my other argument: Take a guy who is a "star" player....a positive force for winning for his team, yet is not a HOF caliber player. My example is Roger Maris, who, at 38 WAR was a heck of a player but not Hall material. Feed him steriods! How many more home runs would be have jacked out of the park? Maybe enough to put his WAR within the Hall's reach. Or, how many more dingers would injury prone Mantle have hit with the extra help? Or Aaron?

The Hall assumes some sort of even playing field. Absent that the standards would be a joke. And no, don't tell me about the guys who are in who don't deserve to be there. The veterans committee let that happen in the 50's - that's a whole different argument!

JT45242

(2,886 posts)
7. They let in a lot of steroid cheats already...plus his pre-roid stats
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 05:07 PM
Jun 2024

The hypocrisy of baseball and especially the Mitchell report on steroid use where Mitchell hid the use of red Sox like Manny, Big Papi, Garciapara etc. or Brewers since the commissioner had ties to the Brewers.

Then they leaked only some names from the anonymous testing years, targeting folks the media or sources wanted to make look bad.

While others like Piazza, Biggio, Pudge Rodriguez etc who were well liked get a pass. If you let some in, let them all in.

Just acknowledge the steroid era like the greenie era of the 1970s.

And before the roids, bonds already had HOF worthy career.
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Auggie

(31,798 posts)
11. Enough sports writers and former athletes of renown think so ...
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jun 2024

baseball folks whose opinions I respect. So I vote yes. Add any kind of qualifier or asterisk you want.

True Dough

(20,244 posts)
12. That would be my condition
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 06:09 PM
Jun 2024

Any known cheats should be identified as such in Cooperstown. There should also be a related exhibit explaining the ways that players artificially enhanced themselves and how that aided their stats and a mention that many other players could have used a variety of PEDS and didn't get caught despite a testing system.

Let's put it all out there.

elias7

(4,187 posts)
13. If transgender females who transitioned after puberty can play with women, Bonds should be in the HOF
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 06:53 PM
Jun 2024

I think the effect on androgens conferred by going through male puberty is far greater proportionately to the advantage Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, etc. had vs their contemporaries.

tirebiter

(2,587 posts)
17. Then there's Tim Lyncecum, no steroids, just too short a time for all of his accomplishments
Sun Jun 16, 2024, 02:46 PM
Jun 2024
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