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Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:44 AM Mar 2019

Honda recalls 1.2M more vehicles with dangerous air bags

DETROIT (AP) — A type of Takata air bag inflator once thought to be safe has now come under scrutiny after a crash and explosion in Maryland injured the driver of a Honda minivan.

The incident forced Honda on Tuesday to recall about 1.2 million vehicles in North and Central America from the 2001 to 2016 model years to replace inflators that had not been included in the massive string of Takata recalls for air bags that can hurl shrapnel into the passenger compartment.

Takata used ammonium nitrate to create a small explosion and inflate air bags in a collision. But the chemical can deteriorate when exposed to high temperatures and humidity and blow apart a metal canister, spewing out shrapnel. At least 23 people have been killed by the company's inflators and hundreds more injured.

The inflators in the Tuesday recall contain a moisture-absorbing chemical called a desiccant that was added to keep the ammonium nitrate stable. They were believed to be safe, and were used to replace older inflators under recalls that began in 2014.

But Honda and the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said that a crash on Jan. 19, 2018 involving a 2004 Honda Odyssey initiated an investigation and Tuesday's recall when investigators discovered that the driver's air bag inflator ruptured. The probe determined that inflators made at Takata's Monclova, Mexico, factory were faulty due to a manufacturing defect, Honda said. The driver suffered an arm injury.

NHTSA, the government's highway safety regulator, said in a statement Tuesday that only Honda used this particular type of Takata inflator made at the Mexican factory. At this time, the agency believes the Honda problem has been isolated and is caused by a manufacturing issue.

The Honda vehicles will be recalled a second time to replace the inflators. Also included in the recall are vehicles that received inflators due to collision repairs.

The recall covers certain Honda and Acura models largely in the U.S. and Canada. Included are the 2001 to 2007 and 2009 Honda Accord, the 2001 to 2005 Civic, the 2002 to 2007 and 2010 and 2011 CR-V, the 2003 to 2011 Element, the 2007 Fit, the 2002 to 2004 Odyssey, the 2003 to 2008 Pilot, and the 2006 to 2014 Ridgeline pickup. Also included are certain 2003 Acura 3.2CL cars, as well as the 2013 to 2016 ILX, the 2003 to 2006 MDX, the 2007 to 2016 RDX, the 2002 to 2003 3.2TL, the 2004 to 2006 and 2009 to 2014 TL, and the 2010 to 2013 ZDX.

NHTSA said not all vehicles that received replacement air bag inflators are affected. Some had replacement parts from other manufacturers that are safe. The agency urged owners to check for open recalls by keying in their 17-digit vehicle identification number on the NHTSA website www.nhtsa.gov/recalls .


More (Includes video): https://finance.yahoo.com/news/honda-recalls-1-2m-more-114426254.html

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Honda recalls 1.2M more vehicles with dangerous air bags (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 OP
Thanks for posting. williesgirl Mar 2019 #1
I posted most of the article, just in case someone here needed the information Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #3
Looks like Aussie105 Mar 2019 #2
You'd think they'd have realized this by now Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #4
Thanks for posting Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #5
Those air bag recalls are nothing to fool around with Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #6

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
3. I posted most of the article, just in case someone here needed the information
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:49 AM
Mar 2019

Sometime I post the whole thing if it's short and includes links to look things up. It seems like there's another recall every other day - and sometimes for the second time.

Aussie105

(6,254 posts)
2. Looks like
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:19 AM
Mar 2019

wet ammonium nitrate is more explosive than the dry stuff, apparently.

Also, has the long term detrimental effect of dry or moist ammonium nitrate on the encapsulating material been tested?

Ammonium nitrate decomposes slowly, releasing corrosive ammonium and nitric acid. Don't store it in a metal container if you have some at home as garden fertilizer, and plastics may not be safe either. Glass or stainless steel, maybe.

Sometimes, the thing you plan to make your life safer, turns out to be the most dangerous thing around you . . .

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
4. You'd think they'd have realized this by now
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:54 AM
Mar 2019

They've been issuing recalls on vehicles with these air bags for such a long time, they should just recall them all and get it over with. The same thing happened with the GM ignition recall. My car was never included and so I thought it was okay - until I stopped for gas one Friday night and my car wouldn't start. Turns out that was the issue - I think my car was in the last three.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
6. Those air bag recalls are nothing to fool around with
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:56 AM
Mar 2019

When I see them, I make a point to pass them along!

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