Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Automobile Enthusiasts
Related: About this forumTesla's Navigate Is Worse Than Human Driving: Consumer Reports
AUTONOMOUS CARS
Tesla's Navigate Is Worse Than Human Driving: Consumer Reports
Elizabeth Blackstock
Today 9:52am
Car buyers have shown that theyre ready to embrace autonomous carsbut are automakers actually equipped to meet that demand? A new Consumer Reports article evaluating the viability of Teslas Autopilot software says that were... not quite there yet.
Tesla recently updated its Autopilot software to include Navigate, a program that uses the cars software to calculate lane changes on the highway without any driver input. It is an important step forward in the development of full autonomy, except it doesnt work quite the way Tesla had planned, according to CR. ... The magazine was really not impressed. From the article:
Drivers at CR who tested Navigate found that their Tesla was prone to making unsafe lane change maneuvers that a human would likely avoidthe car would pass on the right, for example, or cut in front of a car traveling at a much higher speed. ... The system functions fine when it comes to the very basic principles of changing lanes, but it lacks the advanced situational awareness that humans have when it comes to making decisions based on, say, state laws or road etiquette, CR found.
The whole article is worth your time, but if you want the quick and dirty verdict, heres a quote from David Friedman, vice president of advocacy at Consumer Reports:
....
Tesla's Navigate Is Worse Than Human Driving: Consumer Reports
Elizabeth Blackstock
Today 9:52am
Car buyers have shown that theyre ready to embrace autonomous carsbut are automakers actually equipped to meet that demand? A new Consumer Reports article evaluating the viability of Teslas Autopilot software says that were... not quite there yet.
Tesla recently updated its Autopilot software to include Navigate, a program that uses the cars software to calculate lane changes on the highway without any driver input. It is an important step forward in the development of full autonomy, except it doesnt work quite the way Tesla had planned, according to CR. ... The magazine was really not impressed. From the article:
In practice, we found that Navigate on Autopilot lagged far behind a human drivers skill set: The feature cut off cars without leaving enough space and even passed other cars in ways that violate state laws, according to several law enforcement representatives CR interviewed for this report. As a result, the driver often had to prevent the system from making poor decisions.
The systems role should be to help the driver, but the way this technology is deployed, its the other way around, says Jake Fisher, Consumer Reports senior director of auto testing. Its incredibly nearsighted. It doesnt appear to react to brake lights or turn signals, it cant anticipate what other drivers will do, and as a result, you constantly have to be one step ahead of it.
Drivers at CR who tested Navigate found that their Tesla was prone to making unsafe lane change maneuvers that a human would likely avoidthe car would pass on the right, for example, or cut in front of a car traveling at a much higher speed. ... The system functions fine when it comes to the very basic principles of changing lanes, but it lacks the advanced situational awareness that humans have when it comes to making decisions based on, say, state laws or road etiquette, CR found.
The whole article is worth your time, but if you want the quick and dirty verdict, heres a quote from David Friedman, vice president of advocacy at Consumer Reports:
Tesla is showing what not to do on the path toward self-driving cars: release increasingly automated driving systems that arent vetted properly. Before selling these systems, automakers should be required to give the public validated evidence of that systems safetybacked by rigorous simulations, track testing, and the use of safety drivers in real-world conditions.
....
2 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Tesla's Navigate Is Worse Than Human Driving: Consumer Reports (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
May 2019
OP
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)1. Hmmmm ... insurance rates should be interesting. n/t
The Velveteen Ocelot
(121,316 posts)2. Designers of automated systems for cars should take a hard look
at the design processes for aircraft automation, which has been around for quite a while now - and especially at what can go terribly wrong, as Boeing is finding out.