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KPN

(16,101 posts)
1. Me too. But I hate the Dodgers. Lifelong B-Sox fan here.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:02 PM
Oct 2020

Mookie’s the best. Congrats, enjoy and I’m supremely envious.

Brother Buzz

(37,795 posts)
7. Then there was the time the Giants stole Dodgers signs, and they didn't use high tech videos either
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:27 AM
Oct 2020
Stolen away: Brooklyn pitcher recalls '51 sign-stealing scam

NEW YORK -- Stealing signals. Banging on a trash can. Beating the Dodgers in October.

Sounds very familiar to Carl Erskine.

-snip-

A half-century later, a giant secret was revealed: The Giants had rigged a spyglass-and-buzzer system in late July to steal catchers' signals and tip off their hitters.

"We thought something was going on, we were suspicious, but we couldn't prove anything," Erskine said from his home in Anderson, Indiana. "I remember Ralph said to me, 'I bet those dirty birds are cheating.'"

Herman Franks, a former Dodger who had become a Giants coach, was stationed in the home clubhouse, above the 483-foot mark in center field. From a darkened window, he spied on catchers with a telescope, then relayed the signs.

When a buzzer rang in the New York bullpen — conveniently located in play back then, in deep right-center field — a Giants player who might waggle a white towel would signal to the hitter what kind of pitch was coming.

"A batter wouldn't even have to move his head," Erskine said. “It was right over the pitcher's left shoulder. Just shift your eyes to about 2 o'clock and you'd see it.”

-snip-

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/stolen-brooklyn-pitcher-recalls-51-sign-stealing-scam-68320868



The Giants clubhouse was way, way out in centerfield, below the beer sign, so a telescope was essential


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Sign stealing is an art as old as baseball.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:00 PM
Oct 2020

The Astros went over the line, clearly. But the practice is old and has played a part in many legendary games, along with corked bats.

Brother Buzz

(37,795 posts)
10. Sign stealing is not illegal, using technology is
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:51 AM
Oct 2020

Interpreting the signs is the real art. Willie Mays was mentored by the best, and could steal the signs in just three pitches; pitchers and catchers hated it when Mays was on second base, and often resorted to changing the signs.

Just this year, a MLB pitcher intentionally balked to move a runner from second to third just so he wouldn't steal the signs (they had already used the one allowed mound visit).

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