John Dorsey out as Browns general manager after three years

[Auggie]

General manager John Dorsey and the Cleveland Browns have "mutually agreed to part ways," according to a team statement.

SNIP

The 59-year-old Dorsey was the Kansas City Chiefs' general manager from 2013 to 2016. He became the Browns' general manager in December 2017 as the team was finishing an 0-16 season.

Dorsey had overseen the past two drafts and free agency in 2018 and 2019.

He selected Baker Mayfield No. 1 overall in the 2018 draft and picked star running back Nick Chubb with the team's second-round pick that year. He also made trades for starting wide receivers Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry and signed troubled running back Kareem Hunt as a free agent.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28400906/john-dorsey-browns-general-manager

Cleveland Browns GM John Dorsey was blessed with a bounty and blew it

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- John Dorsey was granted draft picks, salary cap space and power. He was allowed to hire his own coach, draft his own quarterback and trade for his own superstar receiver. He was placed in a position to win by the successes and failures of those in the job before him, and allowed to benefit from 1-31 without having to live through it.

Dorsey had it all as the Cleveland Browns general manager. And he blew it. That’s on him, and no one else.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/cleveland-browns-gm-john-dorsey-was-blessed-with-a-bounty-and-blew-it.html

The building blocks are there. The right architect and contractor could build something beautiful.

[Ohiogal]

1. One of these days

they’ll get it right ....

[Cousin Dupree]

3. I seriously doubt that. "Next year" never comes.

[RockRaven]

2. I did not care for his disregard for players' character when drafting/trading/signing...

This may make me sound like an old crank, but the on-field results speak for themselves, imo.

Raise your hand if you really thought OBJ was going to work out in CLE. Seriously. Anyone?

[Auggie]

4. You're not an old crank. The smart teams always look at character.

Work ethic and “coachability” as well.

[Zeus69]

5. Huge ego

Micromanaged game day activities, put together star appeal on pape, hired an overmatched puppet coach and was a crappy communicator.

Good scout but not GM material after getting run out of KC and Cleveland in a span of three years.

Next hire: McDaniels, McCarthy or someone else who would surprise me more.

[Blue_true]

6. Maybe sonewhere out there, there is a Bill Walsh or Bill Belichick type coach.

Walsh was a lifer in Cincy and was constantly overlooked for head coaching jobs, that his boss bad-mouthed him didn't help his case. Then San Francisco took a chance on him and basically set him up as coach and GM, the rest is history.

Belichick left before one day as head coach on the field for the New York Jets because the Patriots gave him more control over football operations. Call them what you want, the GMs in Foxborough are pupits, Belichick runs the football operation there and is answerable only to an ownership that largely stays out of his way.

The Cleveland owner seems to be relatively handsoff, unlike Jerry Jones. What he and his wife need is a coach that can basically run football operations, with a token GM to do pre-draft and contract work, similar to what Walsh had, Belichick has, and the great Pittsburg Steeler Chuck Noll had.

I don't see McDaniel as being the right fit, nor is McCarthy. The former Ohio State coach certainly is not the right fit, Jimmy Jones is the only former college coach that succeeded at the PRO level, Barry Switzer took a team that Jones built and won a Super Bowl on momentum.

Somewhere out there, there is a Bill Walsh waiting for a chance. Does the Cleveland owner and his wife have the six sense that Eddie DeBartollo Jr had when he hired Walsh.

[Zeus69]

7. The Haslams can't seem to get out of their own way

Paul DePodesta is overseeing the coaching hire process. He's tasked with finding a leader of men who can work in lockstep with the GM. He preferred Sean McDermott over Hue Jackson and Kevin Stefanski over Freddie Kitchens. The ultimate decision will fall to the owners, so who knows...

[Capt. America]

8. I gave up on the Clowns the night Tim Couch cried on the sidelines.

My Sundays have been blissful since then and my poor co-workers still "believe".
I prefer college football anyway...Go Bucks!