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Related: About this forumJon Gruden appears to be an absolutely despicable person.
He's always gotten on my nerves, but the racist emails disclosed last week combined with the homophobic ones coming out now seem like pretty solid evidence that he needs to go, now.
Link to tweet
True Dough
(20,310 posts)It will be a forced resignation. Good riddance.
Eliot Rosewater
(32,536 posts)I cant get the article, not that it matters but how long ago were the hateful GAY remarks and it what context?
I just want the info, I am sure he is exactly how you describe him.
I was a Raiders fan during and after Stabler and Madden. But knowing how they went out of their way to harm other players back then makes me wish I hadnt been.
I watched them in training camp and was around that scene back then.
And can anybody tell me why Davis wants his hair to look like that?
underpants
(186,689 posts)Goodell and drafting Michael Sams comments were in 2014.
Criticism of the league trying to eliminate concussions was in 2018.
Criticized Obama and Biden in 2012
In one email from 2015 that includes Droste, McVay and others, Gruden crudely asked Allen to tell Bryan Glazer, whose family owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers where Gruden coached until 2008, to perform oral sex on him. Allen said Glazer would take you up on that offer.
Mocked Caitlyn Jenner in 2015
In 2017, Droste shared with the group a sexist meme of a female referee to which Gruden replied, Nice job roger.
But Grudens behavior was not limited to 2011. Gruden exchanged emails with Allen and other men that included photos of women wearing only bikini bottoms, including one photo of two Washington team cheerleaders.
Eliot Rosewater
(32,536 posts)him for a long time. Plus at other teams.
No wonder Gay players dont want to come out.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)His mom Carol Davis, is not going to let him.
Al would not. In fact, this kinda shit is why Al wanted him gone the first time.
Eliot Rosewater
(32,536 posts)And when you say he wont stand for it, surely none of this is unknown to Davis and others in the league.
Surely he is known to be this guy.
I didnt know it but I am not even a fan, but others had to.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Not sure how much he 'knew' before, but certainly could have known this was what Gruden was like. Or maybe he didn't.
Al Davis in 2002 clearly didn't want Gruden around anymore, even after he'd gotten the Raiders to the playoffs for 2 straight seasons after a LONG playoff drought. Gruden probably mouthed off around Al, some of this same kind of racist or misogynist stuff.
AL was a prick in many ways, but he was a pioneer in terms of the hiring of minorities and women.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-trade-raiders-buccaneers/lx7i1j2be78t1k73pnzge6wnn
Eliot Rosewater
(32,536 posts)underpants
(186,689 posts)Urban Meyer might be out too down in Jacksonville.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)My bet is he takes them, and forces Gruden out.
This is not the kind of show Mark Davis wants to be running, I am virtually positive of that.
underpants
(186,689 posts)I just happened to be home that day and I saw that Al was holding a press conference. It was like 45 minutes with an overhead projector of point after point after point.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3618813
hibbing
(10,402 posts)What an asshole, I'm sure he'll land soflty somewhere, or just take his money and slither away.
Peace
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)underpants
(186,689 posts)Brother of former Gov. and Senator George. Bruce has no credibility other than being George Sr.s son. Indeed there is a circle of people who just shuffle around from organization to organization clearly with no idea what they are doing other than sitting on the money printing operation that is the NFL.
Bruce Allen made the Washington team into a cluster.
RockRaven
(16,283 posts)his staff that he plans to resign.
I hope his source is legit.
underpants
(186,689 posts)I took the massive 10 year contract they gave him as part of their move to Vegas strategy.
underpants
(186,689 posts)Link to tweet
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Bleacher Creature
(11,436 posts)And this time, he's not going to have a lucrative broadcasting gig to follow his coaching career, at least not anytime soon.
underpants
(186,689 posts)I do think his contract was guaranteed but well find out Im sure.