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SarahD

(1,732 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:26 PM Apr 2024

I smell a rat. Or a skunk. Or a lobbyist.

This is a puff piece extolling the virtues of outdoor recreation legislation. The article is suspiciously short on specifics, but it appears intended to pave the way for more guides and commercial outfitters leading paying clients into the wilderness on public lands. Pay to play is the American way.
https://wyofile.com/federal-outdoor-rec-bill-that-protects-wilderness-climbing-advances/

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I smell a rat. Or a skunk. Or a lobbyist. (Original Post) SarahD Apr 2024 OP
To me this is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If you want to climb then climb without walkingman Apr 2024 #1
Climbers set the anchors , they just don't want it to be illegal questionseverything Apr 2024 #2
Wilderness should be unbolted. SarahD Apr 2024 #4
For you Romneyites who may be lurking they are describing a "park". GreenWave Apr 2024 #3

walkingman

(8,280 posts)
1. To me this is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If you want to climb then climb without
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 PM
Apr 2024

depending on the govt. to help you climb. I think a idea without any merit.

questionseverything

(10,057 posts)
2. Climbers set the anchors , they just don't want it to be illegal
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 04:52 PM
Apr 2024

Not every rock should be bolted but for the government to say no bolting is allowing is just wrong

Climbing is healthy and fun and way better for the environment than biking or horseback riding

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
4. Wilderness should be unbolted.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 06:00 PM
Apr 2024

There are plenty of climbing opportunities outside the wilderness. If wilderness routes need bolts, that can be approved case by case, and the specific installation supervised by the climbing rangers. I used to climb and it bothered me that people would set anchors and string webbing on easy routes that could be protected with nuts or friends. The bolt debate goes way back to the early days of big wall climbing, and it's still not settled. My feeling is that bolting should be minimized, and that will require some loathsome government regulation.

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