Did Jesus have sex?

[edhopper]

The last episode of AMC's Preacher started with a bawdy, funny scene of Jesus having sex.

Made me think, wasn't the point of God coming to Earth as Jesus to experience life as a human?

Can one really have the human experience without sex?

I won get into an omniscient being needing to experience something to understand it, nor how a immortal being suffering for a few days a big sacrifice.

[SHRED]

1. "Can one really have the human experience without sex?"

Are you serious?

Kind of offensive to those born disabled don't you think?

[edhopper]

6. That is a good point

and I apologise for any offense.

[SHRED]

12. no problem

I'd want to be called out also...and have been on other issues.

[SHRED]

19. Sorry if I sounded harsh

Not intended.

[Heddi]

21. There are also people who identify as asexual or who choose celibacy

for nonreligious reasons who are perfectly capable of the human experience without having sex.

in fact, a very valued DU'er and personal friend of mine is asexual and one of the most awesome people I know, and has probably one of the fullest, and most complete lives of any human on the planet.

sexuality =/= humanality

[edhopper]

23. but you must admit

that is a rarity among people.
And if Jesus was to experience what it is like to be human, sex is a part of that for most of the population.

[Heddi]

33. I don't have to admit anything

It is akin to saying that one must procreate to fully appreciate the human experience...ergo, we cannot continue as humans unless we further the next generation as humans.

I reject that premise as I reject your premise that sexuality is an inherent expression of humanism.

There are *far* more expressions of humanism than sexuality that are specific to humans. Plenty of animals have sex, and the aren't human. Jesus, by having sex, is just as likely to be experiencing what it's like to be a dolphin, or a great ape, or a rat as he is experiencing what it's like to be a human.

[edhopper]

39. Point taken

[Lordquinton]

36. Speaking of offensive topics

There are some religious folks who think that the disabled are incomplete, and can't"really have the human experience" Jesus himself healed disabled people.

As for celebrate priests, they came along much later.

(Not trying to be offensive, just bringing up a discussion point about sensitive issues)

[brooklynite]

50. Who says disabled people can't have sex?

[cyclonefence]

57. being "born disabled" does not preclude sex

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/03/sex-and-disability/386866/

[bearsfootball516]

2. Well, from the Catholic teaching

God didn't come to Earth to experience it as a human, he came to save mankind from sin.

[edhopper]

7. And how did that turn out?

No more sinning after Jesus?

[bearsfootball516]

9. I'm not getting into a religious argument one way or the other

I'm just telling you that's what Catholicism teaches.

[edhopper]

11. okay

I don't see how he saves humans from sin.

God already said he was the only God and must be worshipped.

What did Jesus being here for 33 years accomplish?

[Act_of_Reparation]

24. And how did he "save mankind from sin"?

I was under the impression it was through experiencing pain and death as a human.

[Mariana]

37. He didn't really experience death as a human, did he?

For humans, death is permanent. It isn't really much of sacrifice to go be dead for a couple of days, come back and hang out with your friends for awhile, and then go to heaven to be at the right hand of god. A human who sacrifices his life to save others has really lost something that can never be given back. It isn't the same thing at all.

[Act_of_Reparation]

38. Just playing devil's advocate.

Personally, I've long felt the "he died for our sins" canard sounded like the early Christians were in a mad scramble to explain how the messiah managed to get himself killed and that was the best they could come up with on such short notice.

[Angry Dragon]

3. must have .......... to this day still hear the words ......... OH GOD, OH GOD, OH GOD

Your points are good ones

[True Dough]

4. The more pressing question

is whether Jesus screamed "Oh God" when he achieved orgasm. Ya think?

[lapfog_1]

8. oh me! oh me!

[ret5hd]

26. Maybe he just screamed "Daddy! Daddy!"

[forgotmylogin]

28. "Oh me! Oh me!"

"I will be coming!"

Okay. I'll stop that now!

[Warpy]

5. You'd think so. It was a pretty feminist bunch until Paul got into it

and turned it into a gynophobic cult that focused on asceticism and death.

[True Dough]

10. This lends itself to affirmative...

[kimbutgar]

13. If you ever have read Lamb by Christopher Moore that Jesus never had sex.

I recommend this book. I gave it to my church going mother in law who loved that Jesus.

[edhopper]

14. That looks

pretty funny.

[Runningdawg]

34. Fantastic book - funny as hell

[PJMcK]

51. A brilliant book!

There's a scene in an early chapter where the boy Jesus is playing with his younger brother and his best friend, Biff. They toyed with a small salamander and while laughing, the little brother smashed it with a rock. Jesus waved his hand over it, bringing it back to life. The little brother laughed and then smashed it again. After several repetitions of this, Biff said, "I'd like to be able to do that." Jesus answered, "Which part?"

The whole book is smart, historically accurate and fascinatingly conceived. It's also hysterically funny. Mr. Moore also wrote another similar book called "The Stupidest Angel" which I recommend after "Lamb."

[kimbutgar]

53. Thank you I will get it.

I so enjoyed Lamb. I was educated for 12 years in Catholic school and the Jesus I was taught was love. Lamb was a good reminder of that Jesus. I went to a luncheon of my old catholic school and one of the nuns who taught me said that was her favorite book.

[PJMcK]

54. "Lamb" was given to me by a minister

He and I had numerous conversations about the complexities of faith. He pointed out that Jesus was probably a pretty funny, charismatic guy. Otherwise, why would fishermen, carpenters and shepherds-- all tough men-- follow him?

Hope you enjoy the other book, kimbutgar. Enjoy your weekend.

[BigmanPigman]

15. Most of what I know about that subject is from Jesus Christ Superstar, the album and movie,

and I think he was a regular of Mary Magdalena. Obviously I do not know the details.

[c588415]

16. what kind of a question is that? Everyone is entitled to believe or not believe

in Jesus. I find it disturbing how a handful of tv show producers think it's ok to depicted Jesus in a bad way because they dont believe in him. I say Fuck them !

[Mariana]

17. You think a scene with Jesus having sex

which is what the OP described, is depicting him in a bad way?

Why?

[c588415]

41. my original post stated that i believe everyone is entitled to their

own opinion pertaining to Christ. Personally, I take my religion seriously. So , tell your story walking atheist / or whatever religion you believe in.

[edhopper]

18. I thought Jesus was a pretty cool dude

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on the show.

Which Jesus does everyone believe in anyway?

[Voltaire2]

20. "Everyone is entitled to believe or not believe"

But the non-believers ought to shut the fuck up?

You do know that one could both believe in Jesus and believe that Jesus had sex, right? He was hanging around with prostitutes, and the whole celibacy thing was an invention of the Catholic church some thousand odd years after the alleged Jesus was wandering around. There is a whole extension to the Jesus myth that has him marrying and having children, in France no less. See Dan Brown. Google "Cathars".

[Mariana]

44. Seriously? This is how you witness?

This is how you demonstrate the love of Christ and His influence in your life? By being hateful toward people who never insulted either you or Christ in any way? Wow, just wow.

[Heddi]

22. Why does having sex make Jesus (or anyone) bad?

Having sex, or not having sex isn't bad or not bad. It just is.

People who have sex and people who don't have sex are people. Their goodness or badness is not based solely upon their sexuality. There are good people who have sex. There are bad people who have sex. There are good people who are asexual or celibate. There are bad people who are asexual or celibate.

Jesus' goodness is not inherent to his sexuality.

[forgotmylogin]

29. Even God...kind of technically...had sex.

Perhaps not in human form, but if you believe immaculate conception, the DNA had to come from somewhere.

Unless...perhaps when Jesus and Magdalene did it, his semen time traveled back to become that which impregnated Mary, which would mean he fathered himself...

Okay that's wrong. I'll stop now.



I like to think of Jesus as an awesome dude hanging with his friends, and they very likely had companions, and it was no big deal. He probably practiced the pull-out method so his dad wouldn't get pissed off that he knocked up a girl.

Okay that's wrong. I'll stop now.

[c588415]

43. Why thankyou for your insight, Professor Heddi Dumbledore.

I have seen the light

[trotsky]

25. Do you think there should be laws against depicting gods in a certain way?

Or speaking disrespectfully about religion?

[guillaumeb]

31. A question that some here delight in asking.

Provocation is a favored method in this group.

[Iggo]

48. Everyone's entitled to believe or not believe. But if you don't believe, then fuck you?

That can't be right.

Right?

[ret5hd]

27. Sculpture of Jesus with an erection:

(Alternatively, sculpture of Jesus using a glory hole)

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[True Dough]

32. What about the children?

They shouldn't bear witness to Jesus getting turned on (or off, for that matter).

[3catwoman3]

56. What can I say but...

...

[guillaumeb]

30. Why would he not?

Some of the Gospels speak of Jesus marrying.

[MineralMan]

35. Dunno. Heck, I don't even know what name the historical person used.

It wasn't Jesus, though. That's for sure. Assuming a real person lived who was described in the Gospels, we have no idea whether that person had sex or not, since that was not mentioned by the people who wrote about that individual many years after the person was no longer on this planet.

It's a fairly silly question, really.

[edhopper]

40. Traditionally

it was Yeshua Ben Joseph

Though, if his lineage is to be believed it should be Yeshua Ben Adonai.

[Voltaire2]

45. There is no historical evidence for the historical person.

[MineralMan]

46. Yabbut:

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

There's that "hope" word again.

[edhopper]

49. That is another debate

if we assume there was, did he get funky?

[Iggo]

47. Probably not.

[Thomas Hurt]

52. This whole issue came up back in 1988 when the movie...

Last Temptation of Christ came out. I did not see it myself, but read about the fall out.

Christ has a fantasy or actual sex sometime during the movie. May have been while he was being crucified.

Anyway, as you might imagine the fundie right came unglued. You would have thought their beliefs and faith had collapsed they squealed and ranted and protested. Of course they were just trying to make no one saw what offended them. usual conservative SOP.

So no, Christ had no sex, had no dirty thoughts, no libido at all I guess, cuz he was perfect, son of God, blah, blah, blah....at least from the conservative POV.

[Doodley]

55. What sex experience is the human experience?

Is it a women laying back while a man she doesn't love humps her?

Is it a young guy who has sex with almost anything that moves?

Is it two people in love? Is it an emotional thing or a mechanical thing? Is it a selfless thing or a selfish thing? It can be any of these things.


The human experience of sex is so diverse, that not having sex is just another part of that diversity.

[edhopper]

58. Those are interesting questions.

[Warren DeMontague]

59. Inasmuch as fictional characters ever do.