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MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 01:10 PM Oct 2018

A New Creed for the Uncertain but Faithful

"I believe in some sort of Creator, I think. I mean, where did all this come from, really? I believe that whatever that Creator is, it had something or another to do with making the Universe that surrounds us. I don't know its name, what it looks like, or where it might be, but I have a solid, unwavering hunch that the Creator probably exists, or existed at one time, or maybe more than one. I don't know, but I sure do believe. I'm not an atheist, anyway. Amen."

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A New Creed for the Uncertain but Faithful (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2018 OP
What about spies? Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #1
The fear of atheism can make people powerfully afraid. MineralMan Oct 2018 #2
You knew there was an irrelevant "What about..." coming with that topic. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #3
LOL! MineralMan Oct 2018 #4
Also, it was easier than the alternative Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #5
Atheists believe the creator came from people marylandblue Oct 2018 #6
There's at least an argument that's just mis-defining "creator" though. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #7
So the unwritten 11th Commandment for ecumenists? Bretton Garcia Oct 2018 #8
More or less. MineralMan Oct 2018 #9
I see that some of the faithful have recommended this post. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #10
I see that you have commented on this post. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #15
True dat. MineralMan Oct 2018 #16
A solid, unwavering hunch.. Permanut Oct 2018 #11
Why would a deity have a gender? MineralMan Oct 2018 #12
I'm thinking of the followers of the new creed.. Permanut Oct 2018 #13
Well, when the men created their deity, they made it MineralMan Oct 2018 #14
Same as a "sure and certain hope." MineralMan Oct 2018 #17
Zackly.. Permanut Oct 2018 #18
But we can be sure edhopper Oct 2018 #19

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
1. What about spies?
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

They're also often uncertain that somebody somewhere might have done something. Are you saying they can't be atheists?

With tongue planted firmly in cheek.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
2. The fear of atheism can make people powerfully afraid.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 01:15 PM
Oct 2018

It can shake them to their core, apparently. Enough that faith in something...anything...is needed to assuage the terror.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
5. Also, it was easier than the alternative
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 01:33 PM
Oct 2018

There's no way I could have kept a straight face trying to mis-define "atheist" as "somebody who is certain where the creator came from".

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. Atheists believe the creator came from people
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 01:55 PM
Oct 2018

Theists don't know where the creator came from, so that's actually a pretty good definition.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
7. There's at least an argument that's just mis-defining "creator" though.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 02:26 PM
Oct 2018

As the created, rather than the creator.

Admittedly, getting things backwards is still in the spirit I had intended.

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
8. So the unwritten 11th Commandment for ecumenists?
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 03:02 PM
Oct 2018

"Believe in anything. Just don't be an atheist." Or a critical thinker.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
9. More or less.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 03:22 PM
Oct 2018

"Faith in anything is better than belief in nothing." I think that's how it goes.

I'm going to call my new creed "The Indecisis Creed," I think. It's universal, and can replace all the others. It will create a new, unified religion, perhaps - one that doesn't require any specific doctrine or scripture.

"Whatever works for you works for the Creator!"

Permanut

(6,656 posts)
11. A solid, unwavering hunch..
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

perfect. Gonna take some getting used to, though, calling the Creator "It". After all these centuries of patriarchal hegemony.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
12. Why would a deity have a gender?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:51 PM
Oct 2018

It's not a human. It's not even an animal. It's an entity. An it.

A non-existent it, I think.

Permanut

(6,656 posts)
13. I'm thinking of the followers of the new creed..
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:45 PM
Oct 2018

gonna have to abandon some of the old ideas. The Bible is full of nonsense, of course, but one of the most absurd ideas I see there is the notion that a creator would somehow be a "he".

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
14. Well, when the men created their deity, they made it
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:20 AM
Oct 2018

in their own image. Since they were men, they gave it a godly penis. I mean, one of godly proportions, just like theirs, no doubt. Since they were the creators, why wouldn't they, after all?

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