On Rape/Sexual Assault Tropes in Muslim Communities - An Islamic Response (Part II)

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

Rape culture isn’t limited to a Muslims nor does it manifest in the same ways in Muslim (or religions) and non-Muslim communities. Each culture and society has certain factors unique to them that contribute to an overall toxic and dangerous environment when it comes to sexual violence. Some attitudes, however are common across communities. The end result, is a deeply painful one: A society in which sexual violence continues to take place, often without consequences, due to the stigma and taboo surrounding the matter as well as its normalization.

To read more:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/altmuslim/2018/10/on-rape-sexual-assault-tropes-in-muslim-communities-an-islamic-response-part-ii/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Muslim&utm_content=49

[MineralMan]

1. Based on your single-paragraph fragment of part II of a series,

Part I of which we have not seen, I am at a loss to guess at what your point might be. If it is that some people, regardless of their religious beliefs or lack of same, rape and molest, that is not news of any kind. It has been so always.

If you have some other point you are trying to make, single paragraph-fragments of longer articles are not adequate, as exemplified in this OP. You are allowed up to 4 paragraphs for an excerpt. Why post just one that illustrates no particular point we can identify, aside from an obvious one everybody already knows?

You also did not comment on your excerpt, so we have no idea whatever of your reason for posting it.

Finally, since I could find no relevance to any point being made, I was not moved to visit the link.

Copy and paste more of things, Guy. That requires no additional effort. Make comments on why you think we should visit your links. That's my advice, which I'm certain you will ignore.

[guillaumeb]

2. I have faith in your ability to read the entire article.

If the fragment does not tempt you, I understand because many of your articles expounding on your thoughts strike me in much the same way.

[MineralMan]

3. Every article is someone's thoughts.

I bring mine here. You bring the thoughts of others, or fragments of those thoughts. One has to wonder what thoughts you might have.

[MineralMan]

4. It's funny. I offered some suggestions that would make your postings

better and more effective, like copying and pasting longer excerpts and adding your own comments. I even explained why those were good ideas. You responded with a poorly concealed personal attack.

That's very interesting.

[guillaumeb]

6. Versus your quite open personal attacks?

I understand your apparent need to expound on your ideas.

[MineralMan]

9. I make no personal attacks.

If you think something I have written is a personal attack, you can alert on that post.

Disagreement is not a personal attack.
Stating a position in opposition to your statements is not a personal attack.
Pointing out a logical error in one of your posts is not a personal attack.
Suggesting that you post more from a link is not a personal attack.
When I "expound on my ideas," that is not a personal attack.
Discussing things from my point of view is not a personal attack.

Calling someone a member of some imagined "choir" could be seen as a personal attack, though.
Making false accusations of personal attacks could be seen as a personal attack.

I do not alert on replies to my posts, even when they contain personal attacks. Ever.

[guillaumeb]

11. I much prefer that posts not be alerted on.

So when you make numerous posts "wondering" about the intellectual capabilities of those with whom you disagree, these are not personal attacks?

Interesting.

[MineralMan]

13. Links to posts where I have done that?

I'll check back later.

[guillaumeb]

14. Easier would be the opposite.

Far easier. Remove the beam and see clearly.

[MineralMan]

15. That is not a valid response.

Sorry. Please try again.

[guillaumeb]

16. But it is very valid. And appropriate.

Have a nice day. Time for a walk.

[MineralMan]

17. ..

[trotsky]

5. As with most of his posts, he's battling (and vanquishing) straw men.

You know, all the horrible evil atheist religious bigots who claim that only Muslims rape.

[guillaumeb]

7. And you read this in the article?

Feel free to cite the relevant portions to support your interesting viewpoint.

[trotsky]

8. Just referring to your demonstrated behavior.

Perhaps you should be the change you want to see.

[guillaumeb]

10. So your comment has no relevance to the actual post. eom

[trotsky]

12. Well sure, in the context of the post.

Your demonstrated behavior was noted.