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NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 08:56 AM Dec 2018

Britons View Atheists As More Moral Than Believers, Religion More Harmful Than Good

http://churchandstate.org.uk/2018/01/britons-view-atheists-as-more-moral-than-believers-religion-more-harmful-than-good/?fbclid=IwAR26fRU8DJDzz20fbfuDlAWEp2544_jDI2EMpGxJ0fPsHvXTxYUlpLrZ6gU




Britons View Atheists As More Moral Than Believers, Religion More Harmful Than Good

An eye-opening survey conducted in the UK reveals a truth many in the United States will find shocking. When asked if atheists are more or less moral than religious people, our allies across the pond favor atheists.

The British feel those who identify as atheists are more likely to be good people. In fact, 12.5% of Britons believe atheists are more moral, while only 6% say atheists are less moral.

Fewer than a quarter of Britons believe religion is a force for good. On the contrary, over half believe religion does more harm than good. Even 20% of Britons who describe themselves as ‘very religious’ are on record stating religion is harmful to society.

The poll, conducted by Survation for the HuffingtonPost UK’s series Beyond Belief doesn’t address why Britons have come to this conclusion, however faith in God and religion is falling in America as well. Jerome Baggett, a professor at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley, California told The San Francisco Business Times why he thinks people are retreating from religion in the United States,...

“Religious institutions themselves have lost their legitimacy in the eyes of many Americans due to sexual and financial scandals, or political overreaching ‘by the so-called Christian right.’”


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Britons View Atheists As More Moral Than Believers, Religion More Harmful Than Good (Original Post) NeoGreen Dec 2018 OP
I believe they totally get it and most Americans don't. lark Dec 2018 #1
They are just further advanced into progressivism Major Nikon Dec 2018 #4
Eurpoe is also home to many far right wing nativist parties. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
They are also dealing with a refugee crisis on a scale the US has never seen Major Nikon Dec 2018 #9
We should embrace this weak association argument between... NeoGreen Dec 2018 #10
Are you making excuses for far right nativism and prejudice? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #11
God is basically dead in Europe Major Nikon Dec 2018 #2
That's very interesting. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
Atheists perceived as moral? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #5
I tend to agree. sinkingfeeling Dec 2018 #6
That's what people in Cambridge thought Duppers Dec 2018 #8

lark

(24,174 posts)
1. I believe they totally get it and most Americans don't.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:08 AM
Dec 2018

Churches are used to control and maintain the patriarchal society and their own power, they don't serve the general good. Now, some churches do, I used to work out arrangements when churches wanted to pay for one of their members medical care. I've had friends who lost their house and everything in it and the local churches really came together and helped them, although that was over 20 years ago. Would the jewish Synagogue do that for Catholics these days, don't know?

What to me is emblematic of today's fake christians is Joel Osteen, who lied in order to avoid helping the people in Houston when they were in dire straits. He cared more about having a pristine church than saving people's lives, he is no Christian whatsoever, but one of the drumpf fakes & takers.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
4. They are just further advanced into progressivism
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:14 AM
Dec 2018

If you want to know where the US will be on social change in 10-20 years, look at where Europe is now.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
7. Eurpoe is also home to many far right wing nativist parties.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

And much misogyny, and Islamophobia, and other "progressive" outbreaks.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
9. They are also dealing with a refugee crisis on a scale the US has never seen
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 08:57 PM
Dec 2018

Now imagine the result here if the same thing happened.

NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
10. We should embrace this weak association argument between...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:20 AM
Dec 2018

... those practicing misogyny, anti-LGBT and Islamophobia, and see how it correlates in the US.

Let's see, Republicans (check), conservatives (check), libertarians (or in other words proto-anarchists who, falsely, believe their property rights will be preserved in their de-regulated utopia) (check) and...oh yes, that's right: fervent believers in poorly preserved and translated bronze age mythologies. Funny how that works.
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Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
2. God is basically dead in Europe
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:11 AM
Dec 2018

While many still identify which a religion, the role of organized religion is reduced to only a ceremonial one. So people still get married and buried in churches, but nobody is buying the mythology.

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