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The Slave Bible Is a Stark Reminder of How the Holy Book Can Justify Evil
By Sarahbeth Caplin, November 29, 2018
As a reminder that the Bible has been used to justify atrocities, the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C. is now featuring an exhibit with what is known as the Slave Bible: a heavily censored version of the holy book that highlights the necessity of slavery while leaving out every verse mentioning freedom.
According to Adelle M. Banks of Religion News Service notes that seeing this exhibit can be jarring to people who are used to seeing the Bible in only a positive light:Scholars acknowledge that the little-known Bible can be a shocking discovery for students and museum visitors alike.
When they first encounter the Slave Bible, its pretty emotional for them, said Holly Hamby, an associate professor at Fisk who uses the artifact as she teaches a class on the Bible as literature. Many of the students at the historically black university are Christian and African-American, most of whom are descendants of slaves, including those in the West Indian colonies.
Its very disruptive to their belief system, said Hamby, who is currently teaching from a digitized version of the Slave Bible.
The book excludes about 90% of the Old Testament and 50% of the New Testament.
Its pages include Servants be obedient to them that are your masters, from Pauls letter to the Ephesians, but missing is the portion of his letter to the Galatians that reads, There is neither bond nor free for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
We feel its an opportunity to contribute to important discussion today about the Bibles role in relationship to human enslavement and we know that that connects to contemporary issues like racism as well as human bondage, Seth Pollinger, director of museum curatorial, told Religion News Service.
Give credit to the museum for showing an incredibly cherry picked version of the book. This edited version even takes out the entire Exodus story of the Israelites fleeing slavery under Pharaoh in Egypt which makes little sense, given how that mass exodus is how the book got its name.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Show this to anyone who denies that Slavery was supported by Christians, based on what's in the Bible.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)Prior to the Civil War there were no shortage of very charismatic pastors who gave very passionate sermons on the biblical merits of slavery. All of the secessionist efforts can be traced back to those sermons for enthusiastic support.
Meanwhile today you have no shortage of neo-confederates who try to rewrite history claiming the war was about states rights (it wasnt), and by states rights they mean the right to discriminate against the same people who had to bear the heaviest burden of that evil. Not surprisingly they are using the same book to justify their hate.
Cartoonist
(7,534 posts)It can be used any which way. I was just reading on DU how an act of omnicide can be referred to as a cleansing.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)But you have the right to assign whatever meaning you want to text. You do not have the right to decide what constitutes the acceptable meaning.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)From the thread https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218298838
The flood is a metaphor for cleansing.
Like using water to baptize.
On the other hand, one hopes that Mr. Crockett has a better knowledge of hsitory that he does of science.
There is no qualification, no I believe, no it could be. You are stating this as fact, as if you KNOW exactly what it is.
So it is not unacceptable to presume you claim to know (at least in your own mind) what the Bible means by Noachian Flood.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)And I have stated that often enough. But I will not add a lengthy addendum to every single reply elaborating on that.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)"can be"
as in "The Flood can be a metaphor for cleansing."
There that wasn't so hard was it?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)But I rarely see responses to opinion pieces on DU asking for clarification.
And in this group, the same few persist in asking "is this your opinion" when I have stated that when I cite the opinion of others, it will be linked to an outside article.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)But apparently YOU do.
Nice set of double standards there, gil.
No wonder no one takes you seriously.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Must be everyone else who's stupid, and not you who are unclear (or just being hypocritical).
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)You be you, gil. Demonize and dehumanize those who hold different opinions. Keep acting how you think Christians should.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Strong words.
Be best.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)They describe what you are doing perfectly.
Using the term "choir" implies that the individuals responding to you aren't acting on their own accord. You are implying they are led by someone like a conductor. As such, you hope to imply their opinions aren't real and therefore can be disregarded because they are mindless repeaters. You're dehumanizing them.
Same thing with your "11th commandment" insanity - you used to fling that around whenever someone expressed a negative opinion about religion. Your reasoning was that those individuals are just mindlessly criticizing religion without any good reason, only following the edict of your fictional commandment. (Which was always perplexing anyway, because why would any non-believer be obsessed with following a "commandment"? Your analogy there was just wrong from the get-go.) But again, you're dehumanizing them by reducing their opinion to a reflex. No actual thought went into it, just following orders.
"Decider" is good example of the demonize part. You shove that one at people to made it seem like they're being unreasonable authoritarians, stomping over all other viewpoints.
I suspect you never will, because I and others have asked you to many times, but how about you try engaging in actual discussion with us fellow human beings instead of using these dismissive and insulting words?
Or perhaps you're just religiously convinced that you're doing the Christian thing by attacking and insulting. Whatever.
As I've said repeatedly, in my opinion, you're doing a GREAT job showing how your religion is useless when it comes to making someone a better or more moral person. You keep on being you.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)One of MM's recently deleted threads contained an example of what happens all too frequently in this group. It is not dialogue, it is much more like an attack. And, for the record, I was not a party to the dialogue.
Edited to add:
Here is the thread, and the example of dialogue.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218298410
trotsky
(49,533 posts)I'll let readers be the judge. You keep being the best Christian you can be, that's all I ask. Clearly you love to follow "an eye for an eye" given your infatuation with retributive justice. That's what Jesus taught, right?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Yes, the readers can read your replies there. And elsewhere.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Your shortcut insults are inaccurate.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Eventually they make a lump and the rug has to be taken out and shaken.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Feh!
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)But when they call other interpretations "bullshit" they are demonstrating exactly what I wrote about.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)What people write is their opinion. Period. I make that clear in my signature line, for myself. Why? Because people don't get that what people write on pubic discussion boards is just their opinions. Nothing more. I'm not sure you get that, either. What you write is just your opinion as well, when you bother to write something. What you copy and paste in this group is just someone else's opinion, which people may or may not be interested in knowing.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)My comment was for those who reject other interpretations as "bullshit". Those who define other opinions as "bullshit".
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Trump's for example. Am I being intolerant, do you think? To say an opinion is "bullshit," is merely an opinion about that opinion. It's not, you know, personal. It's about and idea, not a person. So, it's not an ad hominem attack. It's a brief statement about an idea. Now, I'd prefer a more complete statement, but sometimes, needs must.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)TlalocW
(15,625 posts)It instructs Hebrews to take their slaves from the tribes around you. It lets you pass them down as property. It lets you beat them as much as you want as long as they can walk after a few days. And if you want to trick one of your fellow Hebrews who's already an indentured servant into staying on, you can give him a wife from your female slaves, and at the end of his servitude, he can leave like he wants, but if he wants to stay with his wife and any kids that he's fathered, he has to commit to being a slave for the rest of his life.
Of course, that's Old Testament some people will say as if that matters as Jesus said he didn't come to change the law, and he also admonished slaves to obey their masters.
What a small, impotent god that cares about your shellfish eating habits but not owning another human.
TlalocW
NeoGreen
(4,033 posts)... to have been labeled as the "bible for slaves"...or...if "slaves" is unpalatable to you...
... call it the "bible for prisoners with jobs"
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Days, weeks, months must have gone into making it. What a sick mentality they must have had to keep up an effort of deception for such evil ends for so long.
Mariana
(15,131 posts)that support the practice of slavery, but it was only possible because those passages were there in the first place.
If only Jesus had preached specifically against slavery during his earthly ministry. Imagine how much less misery there might have been in the world over the last 2000 years, if Jesus had said something like, "You know all those scriptures that endorse slavery? That is no longer valid. No one who follows me may own other human beings, ever." But sadly, the stories don't have him saying anything like that.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Such a wasted opportunity for a supposedly all-loving god.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Jesus was all-knowing, just like his dad. So, if he didn't say it, but said other things...there it is...the "Word of God." So, see, slavery's alright with Jesus, apparently.