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Related: About this forumNo, Christmas is Not Pagan. Just Stop.
Major hissy fit. Essentially, all his arguments are: They didn't do it here, so it doesn't count that they did it there.
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/roadsfromemmaus/2018/12/05/no-christmas-is-not-pagan-just-stop/
Exhibit A
And its not like pagans invented trees or even invented cutting them down and bringing them inside. Are you really saying that pagans own trees?
Exhibit B
And do you really expect me to believe that burning a log in a fireplace has some unbreakable pagan connection that Christians just shouldnt do? Like, burning logs is pagan? Maybe Christians would like to be warm, too.
Exhibit C
And lets remember that Germans didnt even come into the Christmas picture for a good long time. They certainly werent there at the manger. (Sorry, guys!)
And here's where he really goes off the rails.
Exhibit D
But lets not forget our brothers and sisters in places like South Africa and Australia, whose Christmas is a rather warm affair with air conditioners and beach visits and such.
So, yes, you can have Christmas without winter solstice stuff. Most Christians always have.
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I guess he doesn't know Australia has a Solstice too. But what's his Point? Xmas didn't start in South Africa, it started in Europe.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)Oh wait...
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)I wish it were Pagan. That would be great. Pagan and skyclad. Think of all the money and laundry we'd save.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Get back to me during the summer. Then, I'll be happy to run through the woods, proclaiming: Nakey, Nakey!
Mariana
(15,131 posts)Unless you like the idea of hypothermia as a Solstice rite of passage.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)There's a follow up joke there of course.
But seriously, I would rather run naked into the yard, briefly invoke some God and Goddesses and go back in and call my self done.
Christmas however grinds on for months...
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)with winter nakedness. Many are wary of such things.
Mariana
(15,131 posts)That can't be comfortable.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Just keep you clothes on in the winter. Works for me.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,112 posts)Theres a lot of pagan tradition in Christmas traditions.
BTW, Happy Pagan Feast Day!
Zoonart
(12,757 posts)Christianity spread north.
Sneederbunk
(15,121 posts)wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)I am not uncomfortable. I am a non believer.
I put up s Xmas tree, give presents and go to parties f
trotsky
(49,533 posts)A spectacular example of the human brain observing the environment, drawing a conclusion, and predicting the future.
The solstice is a celebration of SCIENCE.
As a non-believer, it's a WONDERFUL time of year.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)Regardless of belief.
edhopper
(34,880 posts)Why? I find it interesting seeing people taking an obvious fantasy story seriously.
Iggo
(48,286 posts)CrispyQ
(38,287 posts)I have to admit that Christmas got more enjoyable when my sister divorced her religious husband.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)That's a good thing and a bad thing. The good part is that people get to express themselves in public. The bad part is that they so often embarrass themselves by doing so.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)but South Africa and Australia are used as arguments against them anyways?
Cartoonist
(7,534 posts)So there!