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MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:24 PM Dec 2018

Why doesn't religion rank higher among sources of meaning?

Where do most Americans look for meaning in their lives? Religion? Not so fast, according to a Pew Research poll. Now, don't blame me or other atheists. We had nothing to do with it. Truly. Religion is just losing ground to more mundane things, in people's minds, it looks like. Sorry, Guy...

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900046455/why-doesnt-religion-rank-higher-among-sources-of-meaning-what-pew-research-center-tells-us-christian-data.html

Why doesn't religion rank higher among sources of meaning?

SALT LAKE CITY — Religion shapes many aspects of many Americans' lives, affecting whom they marry, what they eat and how they'll celebrate the holidays.

And yet it ranks below things like family relationships, careers and even pets on recent studies of sources of meaning and identity in people's lives.

When asked an open-ended question about sources of meaning, just 1 in 5 U.S. adults mention something to do with spirituality or faith, compared to 69 percent who cite family members and 34 percent who mention their careers, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey. The 2018 American Family Survey found that people are significantly more likely to say being a spouse or parent is an "extremely" or "very" important part of their identity than being a person of faith.

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For this reason, Pew asked about sources of meaning in two different ways: with a set of open-ended questions and a second set of traditional, close-ended questions. Twenty percent of Americans mentioned faith or spirituality when asked an open-ended question about sources of meaning. That figure rises to 36 percent when survey respondents are asked directly whether their "religious faith" provides a great deal of meaning and fulfillment, Pew reported.
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Why doesn't religion rank higher among sources of meaning? (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
Why? It requires you to accept fairy tales at blind faith WhiteTara Dec 2018 #1
Well, apparently, even a lot of that 36% don't think about MineralMan Dec 2018 #2
Yes. I think their religion causes them to feel WhiteTara Dec 2018 #3
The prosperity Gospel appeals to the rich. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #13
Simple PJMcK Dec 2018 #4
No need to do that on my account. MineralMan Dec 2018 #5
There is more evidence for the Ancient Alien theory then the imaginary friend in the sky. StTimofEdenRoc Dec 2018 #6
Faith is evidence, doncha know? MineralMan Dec 2018 #7
Once upon a time I did. Now I see it as, the deployment of circular logic. StTimofEdenRoc Dec 2018 #10
This is telling Cartoonist Dec 2018 #8
Is Humanism a religion, if so it's mine. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #9
Material for a sermon, can be found in almost any good book. StTimofEdenRoc Dec 2018 #11
Surveys can be written to show many things. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #12
Yes they can. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14
I said it. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15
Probably. MineralMan Dec 2018 #16

WhiteTara

(30,174 posts)
1. Why? It requires you to accept fairy tales at blind faith
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:26 PM
Dec 2018

and there's the 36% of the population again who are a bit deranged.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
2. Well, apparently, even a lot of that 36% don't think about
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:27 PM
Dec 2018

religion unless you remind them. Interesting, isn't it?

WhiteTara

(30,174 posts)
3. Yes. I think their religion causes them to feel
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:30 PM
Dec 2018

like complete failures since the new religion embraces the prosperity dogma and since they are still poor, no matter how much they give the preacher, they're still poor, they have failed the religious test.

PJMcK

(22,892 posts)
4. Simple
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:32 PM
Dec 2018

Lack of evidence.

Lack of reason.

Lack of cohesive thought and narrative.

Lack of scientific viability. (If "god" gave man a brain, what did he think man would do with it?)

Shall I go on?

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
5. No need to do that on my account.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:41 PM
Dec 2018

Someone will be along later who doesn't understand those things, I'm sure.

That pesky Pew Research company, eh? Must be run by atheists. They keep coming up with these negative polls.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
7. Faith is evidence, doncha know?
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:53 PM
Dec 2018

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1

 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
10. Once upon a time I did. Now I see it as, the deployment of circular logic.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 04:30 PM
Dec 2018

I often wonder at the comfort these old stories bring to people in emotional distress. So they still have some positive value in that. These days the weaponization of religion, for me at least, leaves me happy to see the diminishing influence of these books in daily life.



“The stride to be righteous without religion is mankind’s highest calling.”
Saint Tim of Eden Roc.

Cartoonist

(7,534 posts)
8. This is telling
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:58 PM
Dec 2018

People are significantly more likely to say being a spouse or parent is an "extremely" or "very" important part of their identity than being a person of faith.
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Yet many religious leaders deny this to gays. So who needs them? So who needs this phony idea that religion means more community?

I am so glad to see us moving away from the BS. As for those who wish to keep us in ignorance, you're not helping.

safeinOhio

(34,101 posts)
9. Is Humanism a religion, if so it's mine.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 04:07 PM
Dec 2018

Gods play no roll in it, for me anyway. Some Eastern Philosophies also require no worship of Gods. I've been interested in Taoism for a half of a century.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
12. Surveys can be written to show many things.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 05:29 PM
Dec 2018

Explaining the significant difference between 20% and 36% when asked essentially the same question.


And considering that we live in families, and work to survive, it is not surprising.

And, assuming that you read the article, there was this, which you did not feel was important to add:

Issues related to question interpretation are common in the research field, Smith said, noting "no survey question is really immune from that."
But in the study of meaning and identity, interpretive issues don't end with word definitions, especially when it comes to faith.
Religion exerts a more subtle influence on people's lives than parenthood or professional work, as Routledge noted. People may not recognize how faith informs other aspects of their lives even when a religion researcher would argue it does.


I understand the need of some to find validation for their own beliefs and positions. We all tend to behave this way.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
14. Yes they can.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:23 PM
Dec 2018

The methodology was explained in the article. It is not my survey. Just reporting. Do you have anything to say that is relevant? This is not about me.

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