Cupid Was a Roman God. Cupidity Is a Common Christian Attribute.

[MineralMan]

So it seems, anyhow. Between the Roman Catholic Church's quest for revenues and the fundamentalists' quest for the cash in their congregations' collective pocketbook, it seems to me as though Cupid has stuck around. Perhaps demoted to just an angel or something, but still there, encouraging love - Love of Money! Capitalism, Flock-Fleecing, and Accumulation of Wealth are apparent everywhere in the Christian world.

Both the RCC and the evangelicals keep trying to discourage the original Cupid's goals of making people love each other frequently and ardently. Is that so their own love of money demands people's full attention?

Who can say?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. It's a common human attribute.

[NeoGreen]

2. I would add concupiscence as a christian attribute based on...

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...the demonstrated behavior of their priests and clergy.

[elleng]

3. greed for money or possessions

[guillaumeb]

4. Widen your focus.

All humans display human attributes.

[MineralMan]

5. Narrow yours, Guy. We're talking about organized religion here.

Or punt. I don't really care what you do.

[guillaumeb]

6. But your speculation about the obvious human behavior

exhibited everywhere must serve some function.

Or do you expect perfection of some groups?

[MineralMan]

7. I expect nothing at all from religious organization,

except more of the same, followed by more of the same, ad infinitum. Until the mass of individual humans rejects the leadership of those organizations and acts in sensible, humanitarian ways, nothing will change.

Expecting long-established organizations, overloaded with doctrine, to change is expecting too much. History has demonstrated that remarkably well.

So, throw off your bonds and join with others who recognize the harm being done by religion.

[guillaumeb]

10. The harm done by humans.

No matter the motivation, it is harm done by humans.

[MineralMan]

12. Religion is entirely a human activity.

It often works in evil ways. Religion can cause great harm. Do you truly not understand that, Guy? Do you not abhor that, Guy? Do you not fight against that, Guy? Or do you simply act as a religious apologist?


Fight evil, Guy. That's my advice to you. Fight it, regardless of its source.

[Act_of_Reparation]

8. Then why have religion at all?

If it clearly doesn't make us better, then what's the fucking point?

[MineralMan]

9. Well...erm...Creator something...

You gotta serve somebody. Otherwise, you're responsible for your own sorry-assed behavior, see?

[guillaumeb]

11. Ask the 85% of theists.

Perhaps they can tell you.

[Act_of_Reparation]

13. Unless you've had a major awakening in the past 24 hours...

...I am asking a theist.

[guillaumeb]

15. But I can only speak for myself.

As can you.

[Act_of_Reparation]

16. Then speak for yourself.

Answer the question.

[guillaumeb]

17. It provides a framework.

[Act_of_Reparation]

18. When pressed, answer in the vaguest possible terms.

Arglebargle.

[trotsky]

14. Why does it bother you so much when people discuss religion in the Religion forum?

Why do you want to shut down any discussion that doesn't happen on your terms?

[MineralMan]

19. Control.

Seeking control. It is a futile quest, however. Rug used to do the same thing, but he is no longer on DU.