Religion
Related: About this forumWell, my 94-year-old mother is in the hospital again.
Looks like she'll be OK, but one never knows. I'll be flying out to California soon, and am hoping to wait until after Christmas, but I don't know yet whether I might have to try to find a airline seat before then. My father, who is also 94, is coping, but just barely. My sister and her husband are taking care of whatever needs they have, but they're doing OK in assisted living.
So, what does this have to do with the Religion Group? End of life issues are what it has to do with. Both of my parents are non-religious. Neither believes that there are any deities or such things. They think life is what it is and what you make of it. In the past couple of years, we've talked about such things, as people often do as they near the ends of their lives. At age 73, it's a conversation I can take part in, as well.
My mother, always a practical person, said, on my last visit before her dementia worsened, "You know, we live too long. We live past the time when we can look forward to things improving. I suppose modern medicine has made that happen." My father, who is a man of few, but wise words, tends to agree with her, but is striving as hard as he can to be there to the end, so he can continue to support her after 75 years of marriage. If he makes it, he will not survive past her death for very long.
Neither has any fear about the end of life. My mother, despite her advanced Alzheimer's dementia, can talk about old times quite coherently, and loves stories about family and events from the past. My father, who has very little cognitive impairment at all, shares in that sort of reflective attitude.
Both are tired. Both are feeble. Both have troublesome health issues. Both will tell you, if you ask, that they're ready to bid farewell to all of this. They'll tell you that they are happy to have lived for almost a century, but that they are tired and weary and ready to depart.
Not once have they mentioned anything about what happens next. They know what happens next. They have buried almost all of the people from their generation who they knew. They've buried their youngest son, as well, who died unexpectedly at 67. The end, as my mother once told me, is "the end and that's all there is to it, so you'd better make the most of the time you have."
And that's what they have done - made the most of their lives. They've done it very well, and are now ready to depart. They'll tell you that. A little tearfully, at times, since they have 14 great-grandchildren they'll be leaving behind, but without any sadness about the end of their own lives.
No religion. They've never had any religious beliefs. Oh, they sent their three children off to Sunday School, to "learn about the main religion of our society," but they never went to church, except for a wedding or funeral now and then. They didn't come when one of their children was singing in the choir or whatever. They were simply not religious at all. None of that Sunday School stuff took very well with any of their children.
There was no reason for them to be religious. They walked steadily through their lives, trying to be the best people they knew how to be. They succeeded in that, as well. Honesty, truthfulness, integrity, and fairness were their watchwords, and they passed those on to their offspring, as well. High ethical standards were expected and modeled throughout their lives.
So, before too much more time passes, I'll be seeing them off. It's OK, because they're OK with that. They're ready. In fact, they're quite frustrated with the difficulties of their present situation.
My parents are models of what a life without religion can be. They're excellent models of that. I wish you could know them. I do my best to follow their path through life.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)carry your parents on a peaceful trip. I wish I had known your entire family, from what I read.
My parents are models of what a life without religion can be. They're excellent models of that. I wish you could know them. I do my best to follow their path through life.
Croney
(4,925 posts)"Life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone."
My mother is 95, I'm 74. She is sad that she won't see me in her heaven because I'm an atheist. I used to try to reason with her, but now I just let her have her fantasies because I want her last years to be peaceful. Your parents have lived in the real world, and coped. Mine, not so much.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)We're sort of in the same boat, I see. I've known a few people in their 90s. It's not generally a very comfortable time of life, it seems. We do what we can to make things as OK for them as we can, but age has its problems.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Sounds like she is one tough bird if you know what I mean.
Travel Safe my friend.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)They're both tough old birds, for sure.
monmouth4
(10,141 posts)thoughts often enter my mind. I'm not religious in the least and have told my boys what I wish for at the end. They went to Catholic School and don't think they've been inside a church since those days. Hoping your mother gets better and father holds on. Wishing you and your wife a Merry Christmas and hopefully Happy New Year.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)MineralMan
(147,606 posts)headed for the hospital door and back to their assisted living facility. "She feels much better," says my Father.
So, no emergency trip to California right now. Good!
Pendrench
(1,389 posts)Best wishes for your mom, dad, yourself, and the rest of your family.
Tim
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)I've taken that road to the end with my own parents. The rebounds are such a relief.
UpInArms
(51,811 posts)All my best thoughts to you and yours
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)But it looks now like I won't have to fly out immediately. That's a very good thing, since a last-minute flight at Christmas time would likely be very costly. I'll probably go the first week of January.
UpInArms
(51,811 posts)Travel safely, my friend
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)MineralMan
(147,606 posts)MFM008
(20,000 posts)What this feels like.
My mom is in the living room not far from the tree we put up for her
in a hospital bed in her last days.
She sleeps 90 percent of the time.
Cant do anything for herself.
Nothing.
My parents had their beliefs but never forced us to be anything.
My dad left us in 2000.
Its the saddest christmas in my 60 years.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)I wish you the very best this season. I know how difficult it is from first-hand experience. Be well. Be safe.