Christian group conducts study on abortion, finds that Christians have the most abortions

[NeoGreen]

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Christian group conducts study on abortion, finds that Christians have the most abortions
By Isadora Teich, November 30, 2015

In the wake of the November 27, 2015 Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs, the findings of a survey released by LifeWay, a Christian research group, reveal some interesting facts about a seemingly hidden culture within the Christian community.

The survey explored the true relationship of religion and abortion and was co-sponsored by the pregnancy support organization Care Net. These are some of their findings.

70 percent of the women they surveyed considered themselves Christians.

Over 50 percent of the surveyed women who attend church regularly have kept their abortions secret from their church community.

40 percent of women surveyed feel that churches are not equipped to help them make decisions about unwanted pregnancies.

Within these surprising findings lies an unsettling symptom of anti-abortion culture, which often shames women who terminate pregnancies. According to the research, roughly a third of women (regardless of their religious beliefs) cite the father of the unborn baby as the most influential person in their decision to have an abortion.

Many agree that the survey’s results are particularly damning of church culture, which fails to find the proper guidance for women facing such a difficult time.

[SWBTATTReg]

1. How ironic. nt

[IphengeniaBlumgarten]

2. These statistics need to be adjusted.

Of course there are more Christians, just because there are more Christians in the population pf the US.

[catrose]

5. Yes, it's not clear from the graphic whether the percentage is

percentage of (X)s who have had abortions or percentage of the people who have had abortions. I think it's the latter and so the chart looks like America. Despite that, it seems Christians do not shun abortion, no matter what their church teaches.

[Mariana]

9. How do they need to be adjusted?

70% of women who've had abortions identify as Christian. Do you think that number is incorrect?

[Igel]

10. There are two ways of understanding the assertion.

One is, "Of the 100 million Xian women, __% have had an abortion." And you go down the list, with the percentage of Muslims, Zoroastrians, Mithraists, etc., etc., who've aborted at least one fetus.

The other is, "Of the total population of American women who have had abortions, ______% say they're Xian." Or Muslims, Zoroastrians, Astral Plane walkers, whatever.

I think it's fairly clear that the chart must be the second. In which it makes sense that the chart fairly closely resembles America's demographics. It's easier to think that 27% of all abortions are on Catholic women than 27% of all Catholic women have had abortions.

Personally, I find one bit distressing for its dimwittedness. "Within these surprising findings lies an unsettling symptom of anti-abortion culture, which often shames women who terminate pregnancies."

[Major Nikon]

14. Shouldn't be surprising to anyone who has watched good Christians outside women's clinics

"Whore" is a word they seem to use most often. Says all you really need to know about them.

[Major Nikon]

12. You don't adjust statistics, at least honestly

You can include other data points. The one I think you are looking for is the percentage of people in the US who identify as Christian which is pretty close to the same number that are getting abortions at least according to the survey.

So if accurate, what that tells me is that those who identify as Christian are just as likely to get an abortion as anyone else. Not all that surprising really, but it does go against the narrative extremists would like you to believe.

[Ferrets are Cool]

3. Even IF these numbers are skewed...

and of course, they are....it still indicates what FUCKING HYPOCRITES they all are.

[MineralMan]

4. Pretty proportional to the population.

I'm not sure the data are meaningful.

[NeoGreen]

13. If it is porportional, it means...

...being a christian doesn't mean shit for the topic of the inquiry.

It would mean they are nothing but god damned hypocrits.

If they practiced what they preached, it would be skewed in their favor.

Fucking assholes.

Anyone remember Dr Barnett Slepian?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_Slepian

[Major Nikon]

15. To me it means they should be handing out rubbers instead of wafers

Would undoubtedly do a better job of preventing abortions than finger wagging.

[MineralMan]

16. Or it simply means that abortions have to do

with needs more than beliefs.

[NeoGreen]

18. It's not what they preach...

...so what they preach is worthless in reality.

[MineralMan]

26. Yes. Hypocrisy is endemic, for sure.

[wasupaloopa]

6. They make up the largest denomination so I would expect these results since the anti abortion groups

are hypocritical.

[TlalocW]

7. Whichever way the data are supposed to be taken

If the more conservative Christian community wants to stop abortion and thinks it's a bad thing, they need to clean up their own fucking houses before bothering the rest of us.

TlalocW

[littlemissmartypants]

8. More support for

Sex education and birth control.

[Igel]

11. We like to quote studies that show all kinds of things.

But mostly those that support us.

For sex ed and birth control, there are studies giving ironclad support for both sides.

It works like this. You find a place that's suspended easy access to birth control and sex ed. At the time, there's a nationwide increase in unwed births, or at least in that area. Bam. You got your proof.

Or you find a place that's instituted easy access at the same time that there's that same nationwide increase. Oops. Ease of access increases unwanted pregnancies. Both rest on the same flawed understanding of what a confound is.

The numbers go up and down. They do this differently, at times, in different places. Even nationwide surveys confuse, in the interest of saying "I'm right," a secular trend with the more superficial actions taken by schools and government. Nobody likes to say, "Gee, you know, I'm just not that important."

So births are down. Teen sex rates are down. Now, those are connected. But they're not down for all groups. And you know what, they're not down for all groups in the same area in the same school receiving the same education. Gee, you know, we're just not that important.

Take an example that's different but still the same sort of thing. In Colorado, they legalized pot. One side said, "You know, illicit use will go down--now that it's not a banned substance, there'll be less desire for teens to do it." The other said, "OMG, now that you can get it legally, teens will be flooded with the stuff and use rates will skyrocket." Another looked at that "fear" and said, "Way to go, man, lots of toking teens. Cool." What happened? It held constant. Both sides were wrong. Those who were using used; those who weren't, didn't start. (What did change is that those who used used more.)

[littlemissmartypants]

25. Indeed, there are a variety of ways to get numbers to lie for our own benefit.

There are as many lies as there are numbers. It's the currency of statistical analysis.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

17. How do those numbers compare to the percentages of those

various religions in the population as a whole?

If 70% of American women identify as Christian, then no one should be very surprised that 70% of abortions are gotten by Christian women. And so on.

I don't know what the religious break down of the population is, but I do know there is a phenomenal amount of hypocrisy in the religious community as a whole. Especially among those groups who think their beliefs should dictate how others behave.

[Iggo]

20. I bet most people who drive cars are Christian, too.

[NeoGreen]

21. The difference being "christians" don't preach that driving a car is...

.. a "sin".

Hypocritical "sanctity of life" RWNJs.

[Iggo]

22. I'm just saying...

...it's not surprising in the least to find out that, in a country where most women are christian, most women who get abortions are christian.

[NeoGreen]

23. I agree but I am pointing out that their "christianity" doesn't...

..alter their behavior in the least.

They ignore it for themselves, it doesn't change their choices, but push it on everyone else.

They are fucking hypocrits.

[Iggo]

24. I agree with you on that part. They're hypocrites. It is known.

I still say it's not surprising that most of the women who get abortions are christian, seeing as most of the women are christian.

[Iggo]

19. I wish "duh" had more syllables, so I could put -fucking- in between them.