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Related: About this forum"Excuse me, Your Excellency, but I'd like to discuss something with you."
"Yes, my son, what is on your mind?"
"Well, I have noticed that Father Bartholomew often spends a longer time alone with one of the altar boys in the vestry than with the others. I have concerns about what might be going on."
"I see. Well, perhaps he is providing special counseling to that boy."
"Yes, but, I have seen the boy come out of the vestry crying pitifully."
"I see. Well, perhaps Father Bartholomew chided him for some untoward behavior."
"Yes, but, I listened at the door just yesterday, and heard unusual sounds from within the vestry."
"Well, it appears to me that you are at fault for spying on a fellow priest. I counsel you not to do that."
"Yes, but, Bishop, I fear Father Bartholomew might be sexually abusing the child, so I am reporting that to you."
"Very well. I will ask Father Bartholomew if that is the case. You are not to pry into the situation any further. Do you understand?"
"Yes, Your Excellency. I understand."
PJMcK
(22,892 posts)And these are the guys that are going to tell me about morality?
No, thanks.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)It's just my imagination at work, see. Nobody has heard such a conversation, except the Bishop and the Priest involved, of course.
Maybe nothing like that has ever taken place in the Bishop's chambers. Maybe.
NeoGreen
(4,033 posts)...just maybe, it has taken place in every Bishop's chamber.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)I left out this part of the conversation:
"Please tell me the name of that altar boy, father. I will counsel him myself and inquire into this."
"Yes, Your Excellency. It is Bobby Brown."
"Thank you, Father. You are dismissed."
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)We also know that the RCC is going to put up as many roadblocks as they can to keep this sort of activity from becoming public and subjecting them to significant criminal penalties and being sued into bankruptcy.
We also know there's no shortage of apologists who are going to assist the RCC in their efforts, and most of those people are on the far right of the political spectrum.
However, it's a bit disconcerting when you discover there's also those on the left who are more than happy to carry the RCC's child raping water, especially given this is also an organization that infamously lobbies against civil rights on several different fronts.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)covering it all up has become little more than habit in recent years. We are still learning its extent, and will see new revelations in the coming months and years.
Shocking and deplorable. How anyone can dismiss this as just "typical of all organizations," as I have seen done in this very group. "All organizations have abuses like this, so why single out the Church?"
Feh!
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)The only of them to put me in close proximity with not one, but two, sexual predators was the Roman Catholic Church.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Very busy.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)I guess youll just have to deal with it. Or not. Either way is fine by me.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Or continue to misuse it.
Either way is fine by me.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)But that is fine by me.
sprinkleeninow
(20,546 posts)'Bartholomew' was chosen.
Just sayin'...
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)Does it have some significance I don't know about? It's not an uncommon name.
sprinkleeninow
(20,546 posts)Yes, "Constantinople" bc that's the original name and, thank God, they continue to keep it.
How can I be a practicing Orthodox Christian and a liberal Democrat? I can and I am.
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)you'll find lots of results. It's a fairly commonly-chosen name, I think. No connection was intended, I assure you.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Do you think the Orthodox Church hierarchy could be shielding large numbers of child abusers? If there is evidence that they are, would expect them to hand over the abusers and change their procedures to prevent future abuse?
sprinkleeninow
(20,546 posts)The perpetrators were dealt with AFAIK.
One reason that the Orthodox Church, by and large, has little of this is bc the priests are able to marry. Yes, bishops, etc. are to be single or widowed. A number of bishops or metropolitans are widowers.
You pulled me in to make a reply after I claimed I was done. 😘
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,546 posts)Some of this has almost brought me to taking one of the Lord's Names in vain publicly.
It's not you, it's me.
But you did put me to a test. I flunked. 🙃
😍 you.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)You are forgiven. The Creator, as our Muslim brothers and sisters say, is all merciful and all forgiving.
sprinkleeninow
(20,546 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,546 posts)The debil make me do stuff I doan wanna.