Sports Illustrated Swimsuit: Halima Aden first to wear hijab, burkini

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

This year’s Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue is going to feature trailblazer Halima Aden.
Aden will be the first woman to sport a hijab and burkini in the magazine, which hits newsstands on May 8, SI revealed Monday.
In a photo shared to the official Instagram page for the issue, Aden, 21, smiles while submerged in the water.

To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2019/04/30/sports-illustrated-swimsuit-halima-aden-first-to-wear-hijab-burkini/

Meanwhile, in some countries, some lawmakers are eager to legislate what cannot be worn, and where.

[at140]

1. Women should be free to wear what

they wish to wear. Men should not place restrictions on them.

[guillaumeb]

2. Well said.

Women should be free to reveal as much, or as little, as they wish.

[MineralMan]

17. However, they are coerced by a misogynistic religion to wear

what the men in that religion dictate they wear. That is what religion does with their freedom to wear what they wish.

Religion is not necessary good for society. Often, it demands obedience by everyone to the rules of some people.

Nice, eh?

[guillaumeb]

21. You assume much about the motivation of people whom you cannot know.

But you have that right.

[MineralMan]

28. And you presume too much about me.

[Major Nikon]

3. True, but telling how some celebrate a symbol of oppression

...calling it religious “freedom”. The irony seems to be lost on them.

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/women-protesting-hijab-1979/

[Cracklin Charlie]

4. I think the burkini looks great!

What’s with all the fuss?

[at140]

6. If women wish to wear burkini, I am all for it! But my personal

preference falls towards these paintings by famous painters..
Francisco de Goya painting:




Titian's Venus of Urbino




Edouard Manet's Olympia

[MineralMan]

10. That is mainly a male fantasy. What individual women choose to

wear or not to wear isn't really up to men. It's a choice to be made by each woman.

[trotsky]

8. The question here is just how "free" women feel to wear what they want...

when they are immersed in culture and/or religion that teaches women who don't cover up are evil or wicked. Is a woman "freely" choosing to wear a hijab when that is what she is taught?

[SoFlaDem]

11. How "free" are any of us?

Society and culture dictate pretty much what we all choose to wear. I think it would be a pretty unpleasant thing for me if I showed up in Court wearing a toga.

[trotsky]

12. It's a factor for everyone, to be sure.

But a much greater factor for some.

[Voltaire2]

20. do the moral authority police whip women here who dress inappropriately?

It is a pretty clear line to me. Cultural norms are one thing, cultural norms enforced by physical violence are another.

[Major Nikon]

32. Not the same thing really

The difference is the dress code we are talking about applies to all settings and one gender. It's also one that was rendered almost completely obsolete by the sexual revolution only to be revived by the rise of fundamentalism. To suggest it's a matter of "freedom" is very far afield from reality.

[at140]

29. Women are restricted in what they can wear in

Certain religious cultures. That is obvious. No one should deny the obvious.

[trotsky]

31. Agreed on all points. n/t

[Cartoonist]

5. She's now a target

Not from atheists, but from fundamentalists whose noses are as blue as her bikini.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

7. Talk about sending a mixed message.

What to do when you are torn between a belief system that blames you for inciting men's uncontrollable lust if you so much as flash a wrist or ankle, and western media's constant promulgation of the message that being female is worthless if you don't have a svelte, toned, young body.

Don't consider this progress. Just another step backward for women.

[guillaumeb]

13. Tell that to the women who welcome this choice.

Progress is accepting differences.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

15. That's what I said *I* don't consider it progress.

If they want to exchange what I consider one sexist system for another or add another one to the one they've got, that's up to them.

[guillaumeb]

16. I understand your viewpoint.

But neither of us has the right to make decisions for others.

[MineralMan]

18. Do you truly not see the contradiction in what you are saying?

A male-dominated misogynistic religion demands that women dress in a certain way. Visit the Bronx in New York and see what the Hasidic Jews demand. Visit a Mennonite community in the midwest and see what their women are required to wear. Visit a fundamentalist LDS community in Arizona, Utah, or Colorado and see how the women dress. In any society dominated by a male-dominated misogynistic religion, women have no right to choose what they wear.

Religion is not a positive influence for women in any of those communities. Nope. Not at all.

[guillaumeb]

22. Ypu assume much. eom

[MineralMan]

9. And predictably, there will be death threats against her.

All issued by fundamentalist Islamic theists.

Meanwhile, atheists shrug at this entire thing, including SI's venture into political religious nonsense, using young women as pawns.

[guillaumeb]

14. So-called liberals in France have tried to legislate beach wear.

So there is that as well.

[MineralMan]

19. Men, no doubt, dictating to women.

When I was a child and a teen, girls were required to wear skirts to school. Pants were forbidden. Their legs were required to be exposed to the male gaze. It's the same thing. Women were controlled, while boys and men were allowed to dress as they pleased.

Men run religions, from the Pope in Rome to the orthodox rabbi or Islamic leader. They tell women what they must do, and punish those who do not obey them.

That is religion, Monsieur B. That is the nature of religion - to control and dictate. Religion has been doing so since the first religion was created by humans.

[guillaumeb]

25. I suggest that you read #20.

Women, deciding for themselves.

[mia]

23. 20 Non-religious Reasons to Wear a Burkini at the Beach (and 1 Religious One)

Love the idea of wearing a burkini made with sun-blocking fabric. My daughter and I already wear our own versions with long-sleeved tunics over swimming tights. It's great sun protection and is more flattering for those of us who are self-conscious in a bathing suit.

1.You’re uncomfortable with your body and don’t want to put too much of it on display.
2.You love your body and think a burkini is what makes it looks its fabulous best.
3.You don’t want to sunburn the back of your neck.
4.You don’t want to sunburn the front of your neck.
5.You’re a natural ginger and don’t want all your freckles to turn into one megafreckle.
6.You’re recovering from/at risk of/generally don’t want skin cancer.
7.You hate the feeling of sand on your skin.
8.You hate the feeling of sunscreen on your skin.
9.You have short hair and don’t want to sunburn your scalp.

10.You have long hair and don’t want to sunburn your parting.
11.You just dyed your hair a fabulous colour and don’t want the sun to bleach it out.
12.You just dyed your hair an awful colour and don’t want anyone to see it.
13.You prefer to be modest and avoid sexual attention.
14.You’re on the prowl for a partner who thinks covered-up is the sexiest thing ever.
15.Your favourite beauty blogger posted a video called “6 ways to rock a headscarf at the beach” and you want to try them all out at once.
16.Your least-favourite beauty blogger said headscarves aren’t beachwear and you want to prove her wrong.
17.You’re transitioning or genderqueer and you think a burkini is less gender-coded than other swimwear.
18.You just got a new tattoo and you don’t want to expose it to the sun.
19.You’ve spent the last ten years wearing ever-skimpier bikinis and just want to try something different.
20.A seagull shit in your hair once and you are not going to give that fucker another opportunity.

And one religious one:
Your religion calls for modest dress....

https://medium.com/@directordanic/20-non-religious-reasons-to-wear-a-burkini-at-the-beach-and-1-reli

[guillaumeb]

24. Excellent reasons.

Thank you for providing this insight.

I loved #20.

[at140]

30. And in America you will not be stoned

If you expose your head and other parts. In Saudi Arabia don't try it.

[delisen]

26. some more high degree summers & flowing

loose coverings may increase, but I will make mine white to reflect the sun.

As Dylan Thomas called it: the meat-eating sun.

[guillaumeb]

27. Another good observation.

I am olive skinned, with dark hair and eyes, but my wife has blue eyes and light skin. The sun does not like her.

[Act_of_Reparation]

33. Everything is gumdrops, unicorns, and rainbows!

People making choices! Free wills for everyone! No socialization through systemic misogyny to see here!

[Voltaire2]

34. In strict Islamic states women volunteer

to be whipped for dress code violations. Praise Gods!

[Lordquinton]

35. Found this weeks lest self aware line

"Meanwhile, in some countries, some lawmakers are eager to legislate what cannot be worn, and where."

You're talking about countries like Saudi Arabia, right?

Or by "some" do you mean "all" because pretty much all countries have some laws regarding what can and can't be worn.

Or is this another ham-fisted swipe at atheists that defeated itself before it even left the gate?

[Major Nikon]

36. Right up there with claiming Muhammad is a great inspiration for women's rights

Once again we are told to believe up is down and religious based slut-shaming is somehow really a form of liberation.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/02/i-was-forced-to-wear-a-hijab-it-wasnt-liberating/

[Lordquinton]

39. World Hijab day

Do they participate in world nudity day in Saudi Arabia?

[trotsky]

37. Because the REAL crime is requiring people in a secular society...

...to show their faces in specific situations.

C'mon, we all know that.

[Lordquinton]

38. When your misogyny is so internalized

you actually worship it.