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NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 PM Jul 2019

Survey: Jews and Atheists Have More Religious Knowledge Than Christians

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/07/23/survey-jews-and-atheists-have-more-religious-knowledge-than-christians/


Survey: Jews and Atheists Have More Religious Knowledge Than Christians
By Hemant Mehta, July 23, 2019

When it comes to basic knowledge about what different religions teach, Jews and atheists know more than every kind of Christian.

That’s the bottom line in a new survey from the Pew Research Center, which asked 32 questions testing everyone’s religious knowledge.

Let’s discuss the results, then get into what the heck is going on here.

Only 9% of people got a score higher than 75% — which doesn’t sound all that impressive — but Jews, atheists, and agnostics fared better than Christians overall.




None of those scores are worth bragging about. We’re a nation of religious people who know nothing about religion.

Still. It’s telling that the people who reject the most popular brand of religion in the country are the ones who know more facts about faith. (For what it’s worth, atheists knew more than agnostics, and agnostics knew more than “Nones” in general.
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Survey: Jews and Atheists Have More Religious Knowledge Than Christians (Original Post) NeoGreen Jul 2019 OP
I'm not surprised. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2019 #1
Me, either customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #7
A bit unfair... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #2
Or perhaps... trotsky Jul 2019 #5
Also a good possibility. TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #6
There's many notable atheist theologians and biblical historians Major Nikon Jul 2019 #16
And I have known a few. It's fascinating how many UUs and Quakers are atheists... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #18
That was my path. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #8
Mine too. n/t trotsky Jul 2019 #9
Me too Bretton Garcia Jul 2019 #15
You can take a 15 question quiz at the link. I'm a non believer and got 13. sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #3
I got a 13 as well. n/t murielm99 Jul 2019 #4
Hi NeoGreen - Interesting post (as always!) Pendrench Jul 2019 #10
15/15 & Christian. No wonder I'm uncomfortable in church. catrose Jul 2019 #11
Justifying their hateful ignorance is all that matters... czarjak Jul 2019 #12
15/15- Roman Catholic. No Vested Interest Jul 2019 #13
People in interest groups typically Igel Jul 2019 #21
Agree in general. DU's subscribers are more likely than the average person in US to be No Vested Interest Jul 2019 #22
15/15 Gnostic Christian, I guess Karadeniz Jul 2019 #14
Take note of where Evangelicals land. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #17
Ethnically or Religiously (practicing) Jewish? AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #19
With the assumption that these are self-identified descriptions made when responding... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #20

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,042 posts)
1. I'm not surprised.
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jul 2019

I'm also not surprised that so many "Christians" in the USA ignore the warnings from Jesus about wealth.

If it makes them uncomfortable, such as the idea of death or "Hell" in the first place, then ignore it or try to circumvent it with cognitive dissonance.

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
7. Me, either
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jul 2019

Most Christians don't bother to learn about a religion outside their own, unless it is something bad about that religion.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. A bit unfair...
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

Complete article:

https://www.pewforum.org/2019/07/23/what-americans-know-about-religion/

The 32 questions included such things as transubstantiation, salvation by faith alone, the Buddhist Four Truths, the major religion in Thailand, when does the Jewish week start (that one got me-- it's Friday, not Saturday, btw)...

Most people aren't that knowledgeable about their own religions, much less someone else's. Atheists? I suspect they spend a lot of time learning about religions to argue against them.





Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
16. There's many notable atheist theologians and biblical historians
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:53 AM
Jul 2019

Some started out as pious and later rejected the faith after learning about the biblical contradictions and doctrine based on convenience.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
18. And I have known a few. It's fascinating how many UUs and Quakers are atheists...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 08:26 AM
Jul 2019

perhaps most of them. UU ministers, too.

Some do leave their churches when they can no longer accept the mythology, but others understand that a religion is not necessarily dependent upon a belief in a deity.

It's a process. A journey.

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
15. Me too
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 02:45 AM
Jul 2019

In academe, many study "comparative religions." Which compares religions ... and uncovers the basic core idea of most of them. Once you see that, you know enough to adopt - or reject - that general essence. Its good and bad general qualities.

Those who see only the good qualities, and adopt it, end up with say, Guil's general, nonspecific, generic "Creator." Those who have finally seen/had enough, who see the bad that always slyly accompanies the good, become atheists.

Pendrench

(1,389 posts)
10. Hi NeoGreen - Interesting post (as always!)
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jul 2019

I also did pretty well on the quiz (15/15).

Wishing you well and peace!

Tim

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
13. 15/15- Roman Catholic.
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jul 2019

I guess DU members who choose to participate in Religion Group are not truly "average".

Igel

(36,082 posts)
21. People in interest groups typically
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jul 2019

know more about their topic of interest.

A critical thinking study years ago collected a bunch of scholars and researchers in literature, science, social sciences and got a set of questions that would involve critical thinking of each set. Then they gave those questions to everybody in the set.

The chemistry PhDs scored really high when it came to their field. But around the level of their latest coursework in other fields--which often meant high school history or literature. It was the same for mathematicians, historians, philosophers, materials engineers, computer scientists, political scientists. The real take-away is that there is no general "critical thinking" apparatus, you need to know facts and issues and even analytical techniques for each field, and while there can be some overlap (chemistry and physics, perhaps, or political science and history) for the most part expertise in political science doesn't make you any more knowledgeable than a high-school senior in chemistry, and if you're an expert in economics that really doesn't mean you know squat about engineering.

In other words, from bottom to top, if you're interested in something and work at knowing more about it, you're going to know more than if you're not interested in something and don't pay attention.

That could be "religion." It could be "Xianity." It could be the development and practice of sonata-allegro form or wander-words and their connection to archeology.

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
22. Agree in general. DU's subscribers are more likely than the average person in US to be
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jul 2019

more knowledgeable in many subjects because they tend to be curiosity-based fact-consumers in general.

A short-answer quiz of limited number of questions is fairly easy for many to ace; in depth questions in a specific field would be much more difficult for all.

Many or even most subjects advance as one grows older, so a well-informed person has to continue in adapting what was learned in high school or college to current knowledge standards.
How much adaptation or new learning is done is usually a free choice by the individual.
I count myself as one who has not grown much in adulthood in certain fields.

Time, interest and demands of work and life limit our ability to consume new knowledge.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. Take note of where Evangelicals land.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 08:14 AM
Jul 2019

The "fake Christians" know their Bible better than the other Christian denominations. Strange, innit?

NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
20. With the assumption that these are self-identified descriptions made when responding...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:31 AM
Jul 2019

...I would assume it would be 'both'.

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