'Let our voices be heard': Churches march against immigration raids

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

Churches were the backbone of the civil rights movement. Today, as President Trump and Republican allies continue to defend the raids, churches have emerged as the top sources of spiritual and material support to the mostly Mexican and Guatemalan workers targeted by the raids.
Some churches are going beyond comfort and material aid, with their response flaring into political opposition. The state’s Catholic, Episcopal, United Methodist and Evangelical Lutheran bishops denounced the raids in a joint statement Friday (Aug. 9).

To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2019/08/12/let-our-voices-be-heard-churches-march-against-immigration-raids/

[njhoneybadger]

1. Good for them

[guillaumeb]

2. Agreed.

This will help, in part, to counter Trump's attempt to court the religious voters.

[Act_of_Reparation]

7. Will it?

[guillaumeb]

9. It is.

But how many Trump voters is the real question.

[Act_of_Reparation]

19. Citation needed.

[guillaumeb]

20. I will let you know in 2021, after the studies are in. eom

[sheshe2]

3. "Lift Every Voice and Sing"

[guillaumeb]

4. A great song.

Our church group has been providing information regarding resources and rights to an area with a large Latinx population.

[sheshe2]

5. Good on you and your group.

[edhopper]

6. One wonders

what it will take to turn the majority of Christians in this country away from Trump?

As of now, he will still get the "Christian vote", but less of it.

We can only hope this trend continues.

[guillaumeb]

8. In my view, abortion is one of the key factors.

Many Christians support him for that, and forgive everything else.

[edhopper]

10. That is very true

And they disgustingly do it with the arrogance that comes from thinking they know what God wants.

[guillaumeb]

11. Arrogance and pride are issues for many of us. eom

[edhopper]

12. It's different when the arrogance

comes from knowing what the Lord of All Creation wants.

[guillaumeb]

13. I cannot make that claim.

I try to follow the message of Jesus. Try6 being the operative word. But I never assume that the Creator wants me to tell you what to do.

[edhopper]

14. I wasn't referring to you

I have a few Trumpster holy roller in-laws who are blind to what he is because their "church" says they must support him.

[guillaumeb]

15. I understood that ed.

And church is very important for many. It is their circle for many. Often, the only circle.

[edhopper]

17. Then it is a destructive force

if it tells them they must support Trump.

[guillaumeb]

18. The destructive force is Trump himself.

Some Christians support him only because they feel he will end abortion.

[Mariana]

16. A lot of Christian churches have made support for Trump

into a de facto tenet of the faith.

[Major Nikon]

21. Here in Texas...

Unless you attend a church that gives sermons in Spanish, you’d probably best not say anything that supports or defends immigration unless you want to find yourself on the outside looking in. Not only are they a de facto cheering section for Trump, they are the de facto membership wing of the wingnuttiest of the alt-right. You’d be hard pressed to find a more narrow-minded group of batshit crazy bigots outside of a baptist church around here.

Anyone who is desperately seeking a “counterpoint” to the growing epidemic of religious fueled deplorables, is working overtime to get everyone to just forget about the elephant in the room.

[trotsky]

22. What's the difference between trying and constantly failing...

and not really trying at all?

How would an observer be able to tell if you're trying?

Like if someone made a simple quoting error, and neglected to point out that they were quoting someone else instead of taking the words for themselves, how hard would one have to try to simply apologize for the error and correct it? Would Jesus want you to do that?

[guillaumeb]

23. Dealing with imperfection, one should expect just that. eom

[trotsky]

24. One should expect a lack of apology and no admission of error?

What a low bar indeed. So much for trying.