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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:57 PM Aug 2019

Pete Buttigieg: Religious left is 'stirring'

From the article:

Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana, has garnered a lot of attention for using God-talk during his presidential campaign. From regular discussions of his own faith to a willingness to challenge those who invoke the divine while supporting the policies of President Trump, the millennial Episcopalian has made religion a centerpiece of his pursuit of the Oval Office.

Buttigieg spoke with Religion News Service to discuss sin, immigration, being a religious millennial and whether he can rally the support of a burgeoning religious left movement. This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

What do you see as the appropriate role of religion in American politics?


To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2019/08/29/pete-buttigieg-religious-left-is-stirring/

So Buttigieg spoke with Religion News Service. And about the religious left.
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Pete Buttigieg: Religious left is 'stirring' (Original Post) guillaumeb Aug 2019 OP
Mr. Buttigieg, kacekwl Aug 2019 #1
Agreed. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #4
Proud of Pete but he can't even get 1% with African Americans. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #2
True. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #3
"The media prefers the narrative that theists, especially Christians, are GOP voters." trotsky Sep 2019 #7
No, it is not the truth. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #10
The truth is, the majority of Christians vote Republican. trotsky Sep 2019 #13
Reality prefers the narrative. Because statistically speaking they are. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #8
Apparently all 30 of them. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #5
Sure it is. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #6
"For me, it means we need to honor the separation and also speak to those who are guided(by faith.)" trotsky Sep 2019 #9
Did you read the quote that you cited? guillaumeb Sep 2019 #11
You tell me, because whatever I say, you'll insult my intelligence or something. trotsky Sep 2019 #14
If you read the article, guillaumeb Sep 2019 #15
Can't you explain it? trotsky Sep 2019 #17
Yes, I can. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #18
"a quote that refutes your point" trotsky Sep 2019 #19
you mean like curse a tree? Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #20
Hehe trotsky Sep 2019 #21
Hey now, Trotsky. The religious left is "stirring". Mariana Sep 2019 #12
Hell you see the dynamic right in this group. trotsky Sep 2019 #16
next it will be the "Silent Majority" who wake up lol uriel1972 Sep 2019 #22
LOL is right. Mariana Sep 2019 #23
They were always a minority. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #24

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
3. True.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 10:06 PM
Aug 2019

But he recognizes, and publicizes, that theists are not all conservatives. The media prefers the narrative that theists, especially Christians, are GOP voters.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. "The media prefers the narrative that theists, especially Christians, are GOP voters."
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 07:53 AM
Sep 2019

That's not a "narrative," it's the truth.

A majority of Christians voted for Trump, Romney, McCain, both Bushes, and Reagan.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
10. No, it is not the truth.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:26 PM
Sep 2019

A percentage, no matter how large, is not equal to all.

That should be apparent.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
13. The truth is, the majority of Christians vote Republican.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:26 PM
Sep 2019

No one, here or elsewhere, has said that ALL Christians are Republicans. You are arguing against a straw man again.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. Reality prefers the narrative. Because statistically speaking they are.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:32 AM
Sep 2019

And you know this. The 2018 midterms were fucking grim.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/07/how-religious-groups-voted-in-the-midterm-elections/

Protestants fell, Catholics are 50/50 now. Bad, bad news.



That said, we need an edge in some swing states, and this might help pump us back up maybe toward 2008..

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
9. "For me, it means we need to honor the separation and also speak to those who are guided(by faith.)"
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:01 AM
Sep 2019

At long last, poor persecuted Christians, the majority of people in the USA, will feel welcome.

Fuck the non-believers though, I guess. Even though they are now the largest voting bloc among religious groups in the country.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. You tell me, because whatever I say, you'll insult my intelligence or something.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:27 PM
Sep 2019

So just make your point. If you can.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
17. Can't you explain it?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:34 PM
Sep 2019

Don't you understand the article?

Tell me your interpretation, and I'll tell you if I agree or disagree, and why.

You lament there is no discussion here, and yet you won't actually put forth any effort. You just attack those who disagree or question you.

Try behaving more like this Jesus fellow you claim to admire. Show love, not hate and anger.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
18. Yes, I can.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:10 PM
Sep 2019

You selected a quote that refutes your point, and then you reverted to your long established narrative. And that makes actual discussion impossible.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
19. "a quote that refutes your point"
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:18 PM
Sep 2019

(Citation needed.)

Argue why I'm wrong. Explain. Do you think I'm too stupid to understand you?

Mariana

(15,112 posts)
12. Hey now, Trotsky. The religious left is "stirring".
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:49 PM
Sep 2019

Never mind that they've been dead asleep for decades, ignoring the hateful and disgusting behavior of their right-wing co-religionists. Pete Buttigieg tells us that now, finally, they are "stirring". I guess we're expected to be profoundly grateful.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
16. Hell you see the dynamic right in this group.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:31 PM
Sep 2019

Several posters, gil included, have linked to disgusting right-wing sources at times simply because it pushed their pro-religion agenda. Some have the decency to self-delete once it's pointed out to them. Some don't.

Bottom line is, for a disappointingly large number of liberal Christians, they seem more upset by atheists questioning religion than by the right-wingers who actually have power and are trampling on our rights, enabled by the power of religion that the liberal believers themselves reinforce by demanding "respect" for their views.

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